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Old January 30th, 2014, 11:29 PM   #4961
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this road is untouched from Yugoslav times
https://maps.google.si/?ll=46.227917...1,,0,4.93&z=16
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Old January 30th, 2014, 11:50 PM   #4962
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On Crni Kal viaduct http://goo.gl/maps/RmCXb

they really do drive everywhere http://goo.gl/maps/cu2Lu

international street http://goo.gl/maps/0Zij1

coastal highway http://goo.gl/maps/rkIZo

http://goo.gl/maps/IvmQM

Crni Kal from above, you can even see the coast http://goo.gl/maps/wKl8P

three extras not road related

Taller than the Eiffel tower http://goo.gl/maps/v6pha

Marshall http://goo.gl/maps/bb2EK

Planica ski jump http://goo.gl/maps/RVB2j
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Old January 31st, 2014, 01:14 AM   #4963
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international street http://goo.gl/maps/0Zij1
It was on Street View before, from the Italian side. I like this crossing because there are no remains of old border plazas, booths and it looks like the same village, apart for the blue sign with EU stars. It looks like some urban border crossings in Benelux.
Another similar one is this:
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Goriz...144.91,,0,4.57
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Old January 31st, 2014, 01:56 AM   #4964
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Did those streets have crossings before though or were they just fenced off?
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Old January 31st, 2014, 02:07 AM   #4965
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Did those streets have crossings before though or were they just fenced off?
Some were fenced off, other were opened to residents less than 10km from the border (both Italians and Slovenians), who had a document called lasciapassare or propusnica.
Until 2007, only 12 border crossings between Italy and Slovenia (from Tarvisio to Muggia) were available to everybody.
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Old January 31st, 2014, 02:38 AM   #4966
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Still nice pavement after 75 years.

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Old January 31st, 2014, 08:16 PM   #4967
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When you come from Italy you see this:
https://maps.google.si/?ll=46.0354,1...1,,0,2.65&z=17
Where tourists who are driving to Ljubljana (centre) are supposed to go? Ljubljana is signed in both directions, Slovenian cardinal points are unknown to foreigns and "centre" isn't signed anywhere. Very confusing IMHO.
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Old January 31st, 2014, 08:31 PM   #4968
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Ljubljana - center is missing on the right. But I think this discussion already came up, with conclusion that drivers must have basic knowledge of official language of the country they are driving in
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Old January 31st, 2014, 08:58 PM   #4969
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Ljubljana - center is missing on the right. But I think this discussion already came up, with conclusion that drivers must have basic knowledge of official language of the country they are driving in
Ok, but even if you know cardinal points in Slovenian language, you have only West and North. How do you know if to reach the centre you must go towards North or West? Is too difficult to use this symbol, easy to regognized by anyone while driving?

About travellers having to learn some words in the language of the country who visit, there is a reason if Europe uses a lot of pictograms in contrast with the text-based USA signage. Italy changed its highway code in 1993 and one of the biggest changes was the introduction of signs more recognizable to foreign drivers.
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Old January 31st, 2014, 09:40 PM   #4970
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When you come from Italy you see this:
https://maps.google.si/?ll=46.0354,1...1,,0,2.65&z=17
Not if you come from Tarvisio.


A1 by Postojna.
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Old January 31st, 2014, 10:15 PM   #4971
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A1 highway (Ljubljana-Vrhnika) 31.1.2014



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Old February 1st, 2014, 12:25 AM   #4972
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lol

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Old February 1st, 2014, 05:48 PM   #4973
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^funny?

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A1 highway (Ljubljana-Vrhnika) 31.1.2014
this is a complete mess. vehicles not respecting any rules. why are there trucks on shoulder?? even in 2 rows.

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Ok, but even if you know cardinal points in Slovenian language, you have only West and North. How do you know if to reach the centre you must go towards North or West? Is too difficult to use this symbol, easy to regognized by anyone while driving?

About travellers having to learn some words in the language of the country who visit, there is a reason if Europe uses a lot of pictograms in contrast with the text-based USA signage. Italy changed its highway code in 1993 and one of the biggest changes was the introduction of signs more recognizable to foreign drivers.
I don't know it this symbol exists in Slovenia at all. maybe it should.
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Old February 1st, 2014, 06:06 PM   #4974
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Why are there trucks on shoulder?? even in 2 rows.
Because of the elimination of trucks on A1 motorway towards Vrhnika.
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Old February 1st, 2014, 06:28 PM   #4975
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I don't know it this symbol exists in Slovenia at all. maybe it should.
Sure it does. I don't think it's used on any motorway exit though.
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Old February 1st, 2014, 06:39 PM   #4976
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^find one?

it is not so hard to learn about proper positioning in the case of congestion. https://www.dars.si/Dokumenti/5_nepr..._zivljenje.pdf
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Old February 1st, 2014, 06:51 PM   #4977
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^find one?

it is not so hard to learn about proper positioning in the case of congestion. https://www.dars.si/Dokumenti/5_nepr..._zivljenje.pdf
got it
https://maps.google.hr/?ll=46.416026...5.57,,1,-11.98
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Old February 1st, 2014, 06:52 PM   #4978
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I would, but for some reason I can't get Street View for Slovenia to work right now. I'll try to find a pic on the internet. I could just take a 500m-walk, but its raining.

EDIT: OK, I guess x-type found one, but I can't see the pic.
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Old February 1st, 2014, 06:56 PM   #4979
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it is not so hard to learn about proper positioning in the case of congestion. https://www.dars.si/Dokumenti/5_nepr..._zivljenje.pdf
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Old February 1st, 2014, 07:08 PM   #4980
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^funny?
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Sure it does. I don't think it's used on any motorway exit though.
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