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Old August 21st, 2014, 03:27 PM   #5301
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What A4 around Gruskovje? Do you mean on entry from the Ptuj bypass?
No, he means 0.56 km of a "motorway" on the border checkpoint. No, you don't need a vignette for that thingy.
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Old August 26th, 2014, 09:29 PM   #5302
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Dars obtained the construction permit for a 7-kilometre stretch of the A4, from Ptuj to Podlehnik. The construction tender will be out soon with work starting next spring. The entire stretch should be finished by 2018.
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Old August 29th, 2014, 11:30 AM   #5303
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Which route would you guys recommend going from Italy to Ljubljana? Fernetti-A3-A1 or Gorizia-H4-A1? Length should be more or less the same.
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Old August 29th, 2014, 12:27 PM   #5304
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The better route is A3-A1
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Old August 29th, 2014, 02:58 PM   #5305
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Gorizia variant has less traffic and no raccordo's but keep in mind the last rest area in Italy to buy vignette is already before Palmanova
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Old August 29th, 2014, 03:34 PM   #5306
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Which route would you guys recommend going from Italy to Ljubljana? Fernetti-A3-A1 or Gorizia-H4-A1? Length should be more or less the same.
Via Gorizia there's a long stretch with 110 speed limit. Since you took part to the clinched highway project, you should use one route to go and the other to come back, so you increase the number of highways travelled.
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Old August 29th, 2014, 04:38 PM   #5307
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Gorizia variant has less traffic and no raccordo's but keep in mind the last rest area in Italy to buy vignette is already before Palmanova
You can buy it right after the border where you don't need it yet.
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Old August 30th, 2014, 11:38 PM   #5308
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H4 is 2km shorter and 80m lower at highest point. But if you keep to designated speed (around 100) you lose couple of minutes. A3 should be faster (around 130). Both routes are quite scenic. It is your choice.
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Old September 10th, 2014, 10:27 PM   #5309
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This is what the old road between Draženci and Gruškovje now looks like after another tourist season:

[IMG]http://i58.************/ifrajd.jpg[/IMG]
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Old September 10th, 2014, 11:34 PM   #5310
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It's not in best condition .
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Old September 11th, 2014, 12:27 AM   #5311
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You can avoid it by driving on the other side of the road.
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Old September 11th, 2014, 01:02 AM   #5312
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This road is not bad but it needs some patching here and there.

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Old September 11th, 2014, 01:47 AM   #5313
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I see plenty of patching in that photo.
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Old September 11th, 2014, 02:21 AM   #5314
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Indeed the road surface is bad but the geometry is excellent. In fact, it's so good that it will be used for the future IMO unnecessary motorway.
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Old September 11th, 2014, 01:27 PM   #5315
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only in few places looks like this. overall is in a decent shape (according to google street view).
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Old September 13th, 2014, 07:09 PM   #5316
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Guys, you haven't seen bad roads.
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Old September 13th, 2014, 10:02 PM   #5317
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They haven't been in Serbia.
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Old September 14th, 2014, 04:02 AM   #5318
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Whenw e were driving with friends though Belgrade to Montenegro we punctured a tire in the hills. So many stones on the road
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Old September 14th, 2014, 11:21 AM   #5319
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This is what the old road between Draženci and Gruškovje now looks like after another tourist season:

[IMG]http://i58.************/ifrajd.jpg[/IMG]
I saw a road in such condition even in Austria. It was a local road in a very rural part of Burgenland, though. But still, it's against the usual stereotype of Austria being a tidy country.
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Old September 14th, 2014, 11:27 AM   #5320
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The road looks not extreme bad. There are many roads in Germany in simular or worse situation (for years). Of course, it's common in Eastern Germany but I talk about Western Germany. Roads with AADT 8,000+. There are many roads in cities with worse situation.
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