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Old March 22nd, 2015, 01:57 PM   #5561
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Is the road really in a such a bad shape? I have never driven on this road before, so...

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Old March 22nd, 2015, 02:15 PM   #5562
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The road looks fine considering its low AADT. Planned motorway is an undeserved luxury designed by politics.
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Old March 22nd, 2015, 02:28 PM   #5563
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Low AADT outside summer season but a major corridor during summer. We all know that this is for the tourism. When HR applies for schengen this summer, they will probably become member around 2018.
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Old March 22nd, 2015, 02:34 PM   #5564
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Yes, it's for tourism while locals are driving on much worse state roads with higher AADT daily to work. Politics.
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Old March 22nd, 2015, 02:45 PM   #5565
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This is the so-called Balkan syndrome
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Old March 22nd, 2015, 03:57 PM   #5566
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It's a major road corridor with only this section missing, so it should be a motorway ASAP. Motorways/expressways for tourism-only will be Koper-HR and Postojna-HR, while this road is much more important even in winter. It's not all in AADT.
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Old March 22nd, 2015, 04:27 PM   #5567
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It's not just this section that is missing, plus, the connection already exist, just not in the full motorway profile. But for some reason this project has priority while other state roads are falling apart. This, of course, has it's price also in human lives. But this is an international forum and non-motorway statistics are not so interesting.
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Old March 22nd, 2015, 04:32 PM   #5568
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But it's absolutely right! It costs lifes and economical loss
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Which new motorways are currently under construction?
Which new motorways will be opened next?

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Old March 22nd, 2015, 06:37 PM   #5569
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It's not just this section that is missing
If you're talking about the section by Krapina, it's not even worth mentioning as long as the Slovenian part is missing. It's shorter, doesn't have any at-grade intersection, and requires building two tunnels with a combined length of 2.3 km. It will be worth mentioning when the Slovenian part is completed.

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plus, the connection already exist, just not in the full motorway profile.
It's not even a half-motorway profile, just the path is the same. It has many at-grade intersections with 60-km/h speed limit and pavement is deteriorating. It's the worst part of corridors it lies on.
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Old April 4th, 2015, 09:28 PM   #5570
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Old April 5th, 2015, 01:54 PM   #5571
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Amazing video, I just wonder how it would look using Hyperlapse technology
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Old April 5th, 2015, 04:12 PM   #5572
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Since when Slovenia uses solid lines between lanes in the same carriaggeway?

Seriously, it's so fast that you can barely see anything. That drive requires around 40-50 minutes, so this timelapse is something like 20X or 25X faster. You hardly notice the 360° turn at Fernetti.
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Old April 5th, 2015, 06:25 PM   #5573
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Old April 14th, 2015, 05:00 PM   #5574
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Dars and Asfinag today signed an agreement for building the second tube of the Karavanke Tunnel.

http://www.finance.si/8820632/Dars-i...dora-Karavanke
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Old April 14th, 2015, 05:53 PM   #5575
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How much traffic is there now? Any congestions?
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Old April 14th, 2015, 05:58 PM   #5576
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About 7,000 vehicles per day, but there are summer peaks.
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Old April 14th, 2015, 06:04 PM   #5577
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Old April 14th, 2015, 09:50 PM   #5578
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Btw, they will start building it in the end of 2017 and it should be completed in winter 2022/23.
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Old April 14th, 2015, 10:28 PM   #5579
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Dars and Asfinag today signed an agreement for building the second tube of the Karavanke Tunnel.
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Old April 16th, 2015, 03:35 PM   #5580
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The Slovenian minister of infrastructure stated that the new H6 expressway (that will open in a month) will require vignette, despite opposition by mayors of Koper\Capodistria, Izola\Isola d'Istria and Piran\Pirano. The vignette will be required also on the already-existing Izola bypass, that is currently toll-free and included in the national road G111.
http://ilpiccolo.gelocal.it/trieste/...tta-1.11227795
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