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Old June 5th, 2015, 08:45 PM   #5621
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"Finally open."

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Old June 6th, 2015, 12:27 PM   #5622
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Old June 6th, 2015, 12:56 PM   #5623
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These are noise damping panels at the both ends of the tunnels.
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Old June 6th, 2015, 01:13 PM   #5624
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So traffic doesn't disturb the earth?
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Old June 6th, 2015, 07:09 PM   #5625
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AFAIK sound levels are higher at the tunnel exit and this panels should reduce this tube-sound effect. We will see if they work...
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Old June 6th, 2015, 11:34 PM   #5626
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i saw it somewhere already (Italy?)
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Old June 7th, 2015, 02:29 AM   #5627
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Some more pics of H6:
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Old June 7th, 2015, 10:58 AM   #5628
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Some questions:

There are less than 10 km between Izola bypass and the northern end of Croatian A9. Why don't build an expressway there, instead of building a separate expressway (H5) and leaving H6 dead ending in Lucija, like they are planning now?

Is the Izola bypass (still shown as G111 on maps, even if it's de facto H6) subjected to vignette?

The old G111 between Koper and Izola runs only few meters from the sea. Are they planning to close it permanently and making it a scenic pedestrian\cycleway?
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Old June 7th, 2015, 11:13 AM   #5629
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No one likes traffic. People fear traffic. But they want to earn money. They need tourists to get money from them. Tourists have to get there. Teleportation could be a good solution...

Seriously, I think it was already discussed here and we had different opinions and there is no clear statement of the authorities and politicians.
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Old June 7th, 2015, 11:35 AM   #5630
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H5 would be for the transit and H6 for Izola and Piran. The traffic on the old road is intense and two "motorways" are not overkill, imo.

About the old road between Koper and Izola... the media is bombarding us with this question for few months now. The locals would like to transform it into something else, but even they don't really know what to do about it.

For the moment, the road needs to be open for the traffic because of the required vignette for the tunnel.
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Old June 7th, 2015, 12:02 PM   #5631
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There are less than 10 km between Izola bypass and the northern end of Croatian A9. Why don't build an expressway there, instead of building a separate expressway (H5) and leaving H6 dead ending in Lucija, like they are planning now?
I'm pretty sure that they want to keep transit away from the coastal/tourist area.
But it would probably be easier to extend the H6, they would have to dig a Tunnel to bypass Lucija but that would still be shorter and less steep than anything they would have to dig anywhere near G(?)11.
According to this site they even plan to build 2 Tunnels

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Can't give you a source but they won't close it, it isn't even a large road anyways (only 2 lanes) and there is a footpath already
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Old June 7th, 2015, 12:24 PM   #5632
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According to this site they even plan to build 2 Tunnels
Back to H6: http://motorways-exitlists.com/europe/slo/h6.htm.

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Tunnel Markkovec (which opened now): U/C, open 12/2012
Extension to Portorose (including 1km tunnel Lucan): Planned, open 2013

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Old June 7th, 2015, 12:33 PM   #5633
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I'm pretty sure that they want to keep transit away from the coastal/tourist area.
But it would probably be easier to extend the H6, they would have to dig a Tunnel to bypass Lucija but that would still be shorter and less steep than anything they would have to dig anywhere near G(?)11.
According to this site they even plan to build 2 Tunnels


Can't give you a source but they won't close it, it isn't even a large road anyways (only 2 lanes) and there is a footpath already
There is another inland road to go from Koper to Izola without vignette. It's signed as "Cesta na Markovec".
The coastal road is scenic to drive, but it really spoils that stretch of coast. It's not so pleasant to sunbath 10 meters from a road with all noise and pollution. It would be cool to renovate the entire area, creating a pedestrian\cycle way paralellel to the coast, planting several pine trees to make shadow when it's hot, and maybe creating even a man-made beach. They could make this coast looking like Barcola, near Trieste, that's it's not my favouite beach (I prefer sand over concrete), but at least is more quiet, green, and detached from the road.
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Old June 7th, 2015, 12:49 PM   #5634
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Tunnel Mali vrh on A2 (between Grosuplje and Ljubljana exits)
About H5/H6 discussion: If both expressways would be built today they would be overkill except for summer weekends. Butt traffic toward Croatia is increasing and separate expressways will make sense someday in the future.
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In general, roads are always built (or should always be built) for the future!
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Old June 7th, 2015, 02:12 PM   #5636
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Is the Izola bypass (still shown as G111 on maps, even if it's de facto H6) subjected to vignette?
No.

Anyway, I'd just extend the H6 to Croatia. It would make your journey to Croatia slightly longer, but the solution would be cheaper, and it would better connect Izola, Piran, Portorož and Lucija with Croatia.
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Old June 7th, 2015, 02:32 PM   #5637
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Another remark: until now we had 597 km of motorways and 4-lane expressways, but now we have 601 km.

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Old June 7th, 2015, 04:12 PM   #5638
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H6 extension plan (Jagodje - Lucija)

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Old June 7th, 2015, 04:37 PM   #5639
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I think it will be too far away from Portorož and especially Piran. It should be 4-laned to Portorož ("križišče Valeta"), otherwise I don't know why they're building it at all.
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That's not the current plan, actually.

Edit: This is (sorry for the huge picture)


source: Ministry of Infrastructure

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