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Old May 15th, 2008, 08:58 PM   #821
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I have seen such signs in Beograd but I don´t think they are lit at night. Anyway, Slovenia is a journey for me to drive through, this small country looks so extremly advanced as a very high standart western country with no weak things. Everything shines there and everything looks very advanced. I don´t think bulgaria will even reach this standart in 20 years.
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Old May 15th, 2008, 09:23 PM   #822
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Now I feel like living in Monaco. You should try our railways.

Let's see what Bulgaria can get out of being an EU member.
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Old May 15th, 2008, 09:32 PM   #823
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We have them also in Banja Luka
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Old May 27th, 2008, 04:09 PM   #824
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One of the companies that weren't chosen to print the stickers, made a complaint, so in the beginning (from the 1st July onwards) instead of stickers (vignettes), some kind of tickets will be in use.

http://www.dars.si/Default.aspx?mod=...sid=780&lang=2

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Old May 28th, 2008, 11:51 PM   #825
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Well, apparently, after almost two years, we finally got on Monday a new motorway (5 km), A2 between Vrba (where the motorway bypassing Jesenice ends) and Radovljica (direction Ljubljana), which is the first extension of that motorway after 15 years. But there's practically nothing in the media, which is outright hilarious! My only source:
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GORENJKA KMALU NARED!

V ponedeljek je že stekel promet na novem odseku gorenjske avtoceste med Radovljico in Vrbo, do jeseni pa bo nared še odsek med Radovljico in Peračico.

Minuli ponedeljek so brez slovesnosti in lepih nagovorov odprli pet kilometrov dolg odsek nove avtoceste od Vrbe do Radovljice. V zaključni fazi je še rondo za Bled in Radovljico.

Tako ostane le še petkilometrski odsek od Peračice do Radovljice, ki bo dograjen do septembra, potem pa čaka na obnovo še stari tunel z viaduktom v dolžini poltretjega kilometra in težko pričakovana gorenjska magistrala bo končno nared.

Vir: Nedeljski, 1.6.2008

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Old May 28th, 2008, 11:54 PM   #826
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I hope there will be some photos soon
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Old May 28th, 2008, 11:59 PM   #827
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Having anyone specific in mind?

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Old May 29th, 2008, 05:47 AM   #828
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Why it took 2 year to build a tiny extension?
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Old May 29th, 2008, 08:25 AM   #829
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Slovenia stands by motorway sticker plans: prime minister

POSTOJNA, Slovenia, May 28, 2008 (AFP) - Slovenia will move ahead with plans to introduce fee-carrying stickers for cars using the country's motorways despite protests from neighbouring nations, Prime Minister Janez Jansa said Wednesday.

Until now, Slovenia has charged motorists a toll every time they use the motorway. But from July 1, it will switch to a system of stickers allowing cars and motorcycles to drive on the entire motorway network for periods of either six or 12 months.

The six-month sticker will cost 35 euros (55 dollars) and the one-year sticker 55 euros (86 dollars).

The plans have come under fire from automobile associations and tourist organisations in Germany and Austria, whose nationals drive through Slovenia to holiday destinations such as Croatia, Greece or even Turkey.

They have called for shorter-term stickers such as one week or one month to make the transit more affordable for holidaymakers simply travelling through.

At present, motorway tolls for people driving from, say, Austria to Croatia via Slovenia have been as little as two euros.

Nevertheless, Premier Jansa insisted Ljubljana would sell only six- and 12-month stickers, at least for the time being, until the ultimate goal of a satellite-driven toll system became technically feasible.

"We have to ask ourselves whether the current system is fair," Jansa told journalists during a visit to Postojna, a city some 40 kilometres (25 miles) south of capital Ljubljana.

Slovenia, which had financed the construction of its motorways itself, was "suffocating in transit," Jansa said.

"We won't be sorry at all if part of that transit, which is detrimental to the environment, starts avoiding Slovenia," Jansa said.

The sticker system would also be cheaper for locals and encourage them to use the motorways rather than smaller, local roads, the politician argued.
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Old May 29th, 2008, 10:17 AM   #830
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Why it took 2 year to build a tiny extension?
Some things take time. Motorway building is very rarely done in one year.
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Old May 29th, 2008, 02:41 PM   #831
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Yeah, it doesn't really matter how long a motorway section is. Some things still take time. If many people work on a long section 24/7, they can build it as quickly as a short section.

But my point was that it was the first new motorway section in Slovenia after almost two years, not that it had been built in two years (although it actually had). (if English isn't a crazy language...)
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Old May 29th, 2008, 03:24 PM   #832
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and you are a 'master complicator'
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Old May 29th, 2008, 05:21 PM   #833
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Why it took 2 year to build a tiny extension?
actually, in this slovenian text you can read that still 5 km waits to be finnished. so, not finnished yet. but it must be because in Slovenia it is not easy to buy ground for roads, is that right Verso?
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Old May 29th, 2008, 05:39 PM   #834
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actually, in this slovenian text you can read that still 5 km waits to be finnished. so, not finnished yet.
Where did you get this? That's another section (Radovljica - Peračica). The Radovljica-Vrba section is the one that was allegedly opened (both are 5 km long each).

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but it must be because in Slovenia it is not easy to buy ground for roads, is that right Verso?
Ask keber.

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Old May 29th, 2008, 05:50 PM   #835
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Where did you get this? That's another section (Radovljica - Peračica). The Radovljica-Vrba section is the one that was allegedly opened (both are 5 km long).
i expected whole missing part between Kranj and Jesenice to be completed.
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Old May 29th, 2008, 06:49 PM   #836
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The missing part Radovljica-Peračica is scheduled to be completed in november, but these days we can read that the opening will take place in september;
Meanwhile a 3km section (old Peračica tunnel and two adjacent viaducts) is undergoing a complete reconstruction with an opening set in 2009. Maybe verso or keber know more about this reconstruction.
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Old May 29th, 2008, 06:59 PM   #837
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That's all there is to it.
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Old May 29th, 2008, 07:16 PM   #838
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Why is building of this motorway going soo slow?
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Old May 29th, 2008, 07:37 PM   #839
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it depends, from which perspective you look, obviously in Slovenia that seems to be normal
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Old May 29th, 2008, 07:52 PM   #840
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it depends, from which perspective you look, obviously in Slovenia that seems to be normal
Yeah, but i remember that part missing years and years ago and I've never seen any construction. Ok, now they're working on it, but why have they waited so long to finish it, while other motorways were constructed in quite a reasonable time?
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