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Old June 13th, 2008, 08:42 AM   #901
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Because they can make a lot of money from all this transit due to Croatia being in the Euro2008. Btw, they have just qualified for the knockout too.
True, but vignettes are not in place yet. They will be introduced with 1st July 2008.
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Old June 13th, 2008, 04:38 PM   #902
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^ They could already be on the 1st June, b/c the yearly 2009 sticker will be valid from the 1st December 2008 to the 31st January 2010.
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Old June 18th, 2008, 02:09 AM   #903
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For those not willing to buy a vignette between Graz and Zagreb; it's in Czech. Bonus - ancient signs in Maribor.
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Old June 18th, 2008, 03:15 AM   #904
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How is going on with Maribor Bypass ?
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Old June 18th, 2008, 10:59 AM   #905
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it will be finished in march 2009
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Old June 20th, 2008, 01:17 AM   #906
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http://www.wegenforum.nl/viewtopic.p...sd=a&start=180

I can't believe to see a train here; it runs once a year or sth.


Btw, I've forgotten to say that look of vignettes had slightly changed, now they include sign for motorway:


http://www.cestnina.si/?id=19766&lang=1
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Old June 20th, 2008, 01:40 AM   #907
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I can't believe to see a train here; it runs once a year or sth.
And a Croatian one...
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Old June 20th, 2008, 02:36 AM   #908
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True, true. Lendava is the only station in Slovenia there, so trains (except theoretically) can't even move without going to Croatia. Btw, nice smily, snupix.
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Old June 20th, 2008, 09:56 PM   #909
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Refering to the vignettes - is there any section between Trieste and Portorož I need vignette for?
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Old June 21st, 2008, 01:05 AM   #910
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also about the vignettes - are they obligatory at sections between border crossing at first exit? so if i'm travelling from Graz to Zagreb and don't want to buy vignette, do i have to exit at Spielfeld (A9 - A) or i can exit at Šentilj (A1 - SLO)?
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Old June 21st, 2008, 01:21 AM   #911
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It's gonna be compulsory already immediately after the border, but in this particular case of Šentilj it's hard to say, b/c exit is actually in the (former) border-crossing area, before a real motorway starts, but that's only for the first exit, which, as you can see on that Czech website, doesn't have any destination. An empty yellow sign leads you off the motorway (whether it's legally already motorway or not), as well as a rest area. But to be sure, you can use the last exit in Austria (Spielfeld or whatever it's called).

As for Trieste - Portorož: according to the map below, you'll only need it between Italian border and interchange H5-A1. For the Izola bypass you definitely won't need it, b/c it's not in the authority of Dars. For the H5 between the interchange H5-A1 and Koper, you won't need it according to the map (I don't know why exactly, maybe it's not in the authority of Dars either). But you can also use that border crossing on the H5, b/c it's legally not expressway immediately, but of course you have to get off it immediately.

I'm not sure about the Karavanke Tunnel, whether you'll need a vignette for it or not (as you already pay extra for the tunnel), the map says you'll need it, but that's stupid and the map is amateur anyway.




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Old June 21st, 2008, 01:29 AM   #912
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so this is how willl it look like. i think it's gonan be unique system in the world currently. how about Bregana/Obrežje - can we exit at exit Obrežje (with service area Mokrice) wothout a vignette? how about Sežana - Fernetiči?
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Old June 21st, 2008, 01:37 AM   #913
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What about cars with caravans and mobile homes?
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Old June 21st, 2008, 01:46 AM   #914
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Fernetiči/Fernetti (Ljubljana - Trieste / Trieste - Ljubljana) is legally not motorway, also b/c it's not motorway on the Italian side immediately, so you can cross it for sure. Obrežje/Bregana (Ljubljana - Zagreb / Zagreb - Ljubljana) is interesting. It already/still looks like a motorway to me in both directions, especially direction Croatia (and the border with Croatia is the last one to experiment, as there's control on it, so maybe they'll force you to buy a vignette!), but this would then be really bad for non-EU-citizens and non-Croats, b/c the two nearby border crossings are reserved just for EU- and Croatian citizens.

Oh, I forgot to add that most probably you can't use the entrance ramp Šentilj for direction Austria, b/c it's not in the border-crossing area, but already a kilometer or so sooner. And you can use the border crossing between Koper and Trieste (on H5) in both directions.

Cars with caravans and mobile homes will probably need vignette (they clearly aren't trucks or buses, but do they weigh more than 3.5 tons?).
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Old June 21st, 2008, 03:43 AM   #915
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Obrežje/Bregana (Ljubljana - Zagreb / Zagreb - Ljubljana) is interesting. It already/still looks like a motorway to me in both directions, especially direction Croatia (and the border with Croatia is the last one to experiment, as there's control on it, so maybe they'll force you to buy a vignette!), but this would then be really bad for non-EU-citizens and non-Croats, b/c the two nearby border crossings are reserved just for EU- and Croatian citizens.
So, the nearest international ordinary-road border crossing between Slovenia and Croatia in the direction of the Adriatic Sea is Metlika / Jurovski Brod between Novo mesto and Karlovac. And in the direction of Hungary it's Bistrica ob Sotli (Bistrica-on-the-Sotla) / Razvor between.. err.. Bistrica ob Sotli and Kumrovec, you know, where Josip Broz Tito was born.

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Old June 21st, 2008, 10:07 AM   #916
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As for Trieste - Portorož
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EDIT: Forget it, I'm buying the vignette

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Old June 21st, 2008, 01:17 PM   #917
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Every section, which requires vignette will be clearly signed. As in Austria.
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Old June 21st, 2008, 02:45 PM   #918
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So, the nearest international ordinary-road border crossing between Slovenia and Croatia in the direction of the Adriatic Sea is Metlika / Jurovski Brod between Novo mesto and Karlovac. And in the direction of Hungary it's Bistrica ob Sotli (Bistrica-on-the-Sotla) / Razvor between.. err.. Bistrica ob Sotli and Kumrovec.
there is "mala Bregana" border crossing (officialy i think it is called Harmica, at slovenian side i don't know.
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Old June 21st, 2008, 03:08 PM   #919
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^ You're talking about two different border crossings. One is Harmica/Rigonce (direction Hungary), the other one is Bregana Naselje (Bregana Hamlet ) / Slovenska vas (Slovenian Village ) (direction Adriatic Sea). But they are both reserved for EU- and Croatian citizens. Perhaps also citizens of EFTA (CH, FL, N, IS). But not for Bosnians, for example.

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i thought that it was the same border crossing. and i thought that they are only for HR/SLO citizens, but was not sure
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