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Old June 21st, 2008, 04:21 PM   #921
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^ Slovenia is in EU, so it's also for other EU citizens. Yay for my 6,000th post!
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Old June 21st, 2008, 05:58 PM   #922
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Why doesn't Ljubljana's mway ring have own number?
(for example "A0")
and than all radials could have different numbers (e.g A1-A4)

instead of it there are two country crossing motorway (A1, A2) which bypasses Ljubljana and these bypasses and the H3 constitutes the motorway ring...
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Old June 21st, 2008, 06:05 PM   #923
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I agree. Road numbering of motorways in Slovenia seems unusual. I prefer the radial pattern in most of Europe.
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Old June 21st, 2008, 08:22 PM   #924
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^ I don't think it's the case in most of Europe. And I don't like it; it's an easy pattern, but I like it when the most important road is #1.

These two major Slovenian axes (today's A1 and A2) were formed when Slovenia was still just a small part of Yugoslavia (today's A2 was also part of the most important pan-Yugoslav highway), so too short sections weren't welcome. Also, until 1991, Ljubljana wasn't that important and also the ringroad was finished only in 1999. Note that today's H3 (northern part) was before designated as A10 (Koper-Maribor-Austria motorway), although it's always had the motorroad sign (even with 80-km/h speed limit). So today's A1 (previous A10) was known as "Slovenika" and today's A2 (previous A1) was known as "Ilirika" and it stayed this way (although I must say we don't really use it any more, but it was still popular in the nineties).
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Old June 21st, 2008, 08:45 PM   #925
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You're right actually, they should be split in 4 numbers. Indeed we don't call them Slovenika and Ilirika any more, but "Štajerska avtocesta" (Styrian Motorway) for A1 towards Maribor, "Primorska AC" (Littoral Mway) for A1 towards Adriatic Sea, "Gorenjska AC" (Upper Carniolan Mway) for A2 towards Villach and "Dolenjska AC" (Lower Carniolan Mway) for A2 towards Zagreb.
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Old June 21st, 2008, 09:01 PM   #926
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Maps from the 80's

Der Neue Grosse Shell Atlas 1987/88


Collins Road Atlas Europe 1989
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Old June 21st, 2008, 09:19 PM   #927
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Yeah, until 1996 you needed like 3 hours to reach Austria north of Maribor from Ljubljana. Even until 2001 it took you up to an hour to get yourself through the northeastern Ljubljana suburbs. And that was the road, connecting the two major Slovenian cities (with the third biggest town inbetween), just 130 km apart. And driving through Jesenice until 1993 (when there was a lot of traffic b/c of ski-jumping in Planica or skiing in Kranjska Gora) took you 45 minutes. This is one damn long town.

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Old June 22nd, 2008, 09:18 PM   #928
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A couple of days ago there was an unusual traffic 'accident' over the Ljubljana-Villach motorway:






Photos: G.E.
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Old June 23rd, 2008, 12:11 AM   #929
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It's less than ten days until they open the most expensive Slovenian tunnel of all times (per km) in northwestern Ljubljana, and here are photos:
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Ker je samo še dobr teden do odprtja odseka Šentvid-Koseze, sem dans mal poslikal ta predel. Aja, pa to je moj prvi post, upam, da bo vse tko kt je treba .

Razcep Koseze


Priključek Podutik


Pogled v smeri Šentvida


Predor Šentvid v ozadju


Predor Šentvid


Pogled v smeri razcepa Koseze


Kažipot


Še 1x predor Šentvid



Od kdaj gre pa A1 proti Kranju? Verjetno je napaka.


Kažipot iz smeri H3 proti Gorenjski. Tukaj pa je A2 proti Kranju.
Of course they couldn't do without mistaking A2 for A1, and how about cutting some greenery? We're not Belgium.

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Old June 23rd, 2008, 12:41 PM   #930
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the photo with the house on the endge of the cutting is really nice...

probably the supporting wall and the sound barrier costed more than the value of the house...
but despite this "wise" investment the value of the house decreased...
(who want to live right next to a motorway?)
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Old June 23rd, 2008, 04:49 PM   #931
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From Novo mesto to Zagreb on motorway

Hehe, yeah, it's nice. Btw, does anyone think they could start putting signs for Hungary (H) around Ljubljana?

Anyway, today they opened 5.5 km of A2 motorway between Kronovo and Lešnica by Novo mesto, the remaining part between Novo mesto and Zagreb. No more crappy road there. So now we have 427 km of motorways (and 47 km of 4-lane expressways). Again nothing much in the media.

http://www.dars.si/Default.aspx?mod=...sid=792&lang=2


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Old June 23rd, 2008, 05:01 PM   #932
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^ Great
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Old June 23rd, 2008, 05:57 PM   #933
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So not much left to complete in Slovenian motorways
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Old June 23rd, 2008, 05:58 PM   #934
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Excellent piece of work, the Slovenian motorway network is nearly completed.
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Old June 23rd, 2008, 06:22 PM   #935
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^ I agree; there are still quite some km to build, but they should be built soon; I hope.
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Old June 23rd, 2008, 06:33 PM   #936
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it is not, still no full connection to the east, and only one motorway touching an eastern border (with later interruption in direction LJ)
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Old June 23rd, 2008, 08:16 PM   #937
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Btw, does anyone think they could start putting signs for Hungary (H) around Ljubljana?
why? are there no signs for Hungary?!?

I think sings will lost their importance, PNAs will replace them.

(ok. I know some of the users of this forum thinks PNAs are crap... )
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Old June 23rd, 2008, 08:19 PM   #938
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why? are there no signs for Hungary?!?
Have you seen them anywhere?
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Old June 30th, 2008, 12:18 AM   #939
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With the new motorway in northwestern Ljubljana we're getting new signs with digital supplements:
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Old June 30th, 2008, 01:07 AM   #940
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Cesta zaprta sounds pretty funny. BTW, I like that dog, but I hope when the cesta will be nezaprta no animals will be crossing it.
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