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Old July 24th, 2008, 05:59 AM   #1061
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Old July 24th, 2008, 08:02 AM   #1062
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The other one had crossed the 1000 post mark.
and why it is needed to close a thread when it "crosses the 1000 post mark"?
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Old July 24th, 2008, 10:58 AM   #1063
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yesterday DARS started to demolish toll stations; starting with Log a.k.a. Ljubljana zahod on A1
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Old July 24th, 2008, 11:10 AM   #1064
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Even for trucks and buses?
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Old July 24th, 2008, 11:31 AM   #1065
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Definitely not!
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Old July 24th, 2008, 11:42 AM   #1066
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and why it is needed to close a thread when it "crosses the 1000 post mark"?
Some time ago,maybe even before Hungary got into the CE section,the servers couldnt handle longer threads. But its not the case now,so its more like a custom now.

So the legend says...
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Old July 24th, 2008, 11:48 AM   #1067
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Well, eventually, the servers will run slow again, and after 1000 posts, I think it's good to have a fresh start again (if not in the middle of a discussion)>
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Old July 24th, 2008, 06:09 PM   #1068
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yesterday DARS started to demolish toll stations; starting with Log a.k.a. Ljubljana zahod on A1
how will it look, 2 small stations beside for lorries and buses? or?
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Old July 24th, 2008, 07:19 PM   #1069
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it is going to look like this, more or less; cabins (except those for lorries and buses) and some concrete blocks will be removed, these "islands" in the middle are going to stay and speed reduction to 40km/h as well; complete removal should/will take place in january 2010 with the introduction of satellite pay toll system for lorries
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Old July 24th, 2008, 07:26 PM   #1070
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How many toll-collectors had lost their job becasuse of the vignette?
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Old July 24th, 2008, 08:39 PM   #1071
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^ They were mostly students anyway.
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Old July 26th, 2008, 08:45 PM   #1072
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The motorway for Villach will only be finished in 2010. They can't build this short motorway for Germany in decades.
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Old July 26th, 2008, 10:00 PM   #1073
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are you talking about this section?

this is shorter than 2km...

and what about this section?
(next to the previous one)
is it finished?

the google shows it "almost finished" (the route is marked with thin grey double line...)
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Old July 26th, 2008, 10:25 PM   #1074
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are you talking about this section?
No, the one next to it, to the southeast. It's only 2.4 km long, but queues form anyway. The sections you showed us are actually just one section, and will be opened this autumn/fall. You can partly already drive on it, but only half-profiled.
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Old July 27th, 2008, 03:04 AM   #1075
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There will be (or already is, considering that it's already open half-profile?) an interesting-looking interchange on the motorway (southeast of Radovljica):



What is this anyway? A double trumpet?
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Old July 27th, 2008, 07:51 PM   #1076
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wow, that's a really good route plan...

but this 2.440m section is not a missing section: it is a half profile section, it only needs widening... (google sat image)

but why the google map shows this section full-profile?? (double orange line)

is it possible that the widening works has been finished and it is fullprofile already???



the northern part of the other section (the 9780m long one) can be seen under construction on google sat.


and the Radovljica IC is a standard half-cloverleaf motorway-to-road IC.
I think you were confused by the over emphasized turning lanes at the ICramps-road intersections...

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Old July 27th, 2008, 08:21 PM   #1077
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Double Trumpet ICs:

It can be used when 2 motorways cross each other but there is no space around the crossing point for a cloverleaf (or other mway-to-mway) IC, so they build two connecting trumpet a little bit further from the crossing point...

And it can be used also when 2 toll motorway cross each other so they can concentrate all exchanging traffic (8 ramps!!) in a single stretch of road, where toll booths can be installed.

a double trumpet on the belgrad bypass...

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Old July 28th, 2008, 01:01 AM   #1078
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Thanks about interchanges; you have to admit half-cloverleaves aren't that common.

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but this 2.440m section is not a missing section: it is a half profile section, it only needs widening... (google sat image)
Correct, a 2-lane expressway used to run here, which now requires modernization (you drive on the new half).

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but why the google map shows this section full-profile?? (double orange line)

is it possible that the widening works has been finished and it is fullprofile already???
That's b/c Dars think they can fool us by officially proclaiming the road "motorway with roadworks". They "just" forgot to add that the "motorway" has never even been fully open yet. The same with the section Vrba - Radovljica: when you enter it, it's officially already motorway, with the adjacent sign, but the "little" problem is that it's not fully open yet. The difference between the two sections is that between Vrba and Radovljica the motorway is completely new; there was no expressway there before.
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Old July 28th, 2008, 09:57 AM   #1079
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but this 2.440m section is not a missing section: it is a half profile section, it only needs widening... (google sat image)
It involves widening three pretty high viaducts, which are already some 35 years old (read: new construction) and enlarging too narrow tunnel.
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Old July 28th, 2008, 10:53 AM   #1080
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the 2nd halfprofile recquires new viaducts and tunnel.

why do the old ones need widening?
to build emergency lane?

on viaducts and tunnels it is optional...
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