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Old November 30th, 2008, 04:13 PM   #1541
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I guess I'm thankful for small mercies. But the region south of Ptuj (Haloze) is the poorest part of Slovenia.
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Old November 30th, 2008, 05:42 PM   #1542
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Old November 30th, 2008, 05:52 PM   #1543
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There is enough money. It's a matter of how you redistribute that money.
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Old November 30th, 2008, 05:54 PM   #1544
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Old November 30th, 2008, 05:57 PM   #1545
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That's sth I don't quite understand either. I bet it's even faster in summer, when the H2 is totally jammed (and you can bypass the Pesnica roundabout on a road west of it). If I go to Villach, I don't make a big deal at all about the fact that I need vignette in Austria. I know it's much cheaper, but I wouldn't buy it for Villach either, not to mention buying it, sticking it and especially peeling it off. To be frank, I wouldn't even use the Karavanke tunnel, I'd just go to Kranjska Gora and over Korensko sedlo (Wurzenpass). Big deal.
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Old November 30th, 2008, 05:58 PM   #1546
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One thing you have to be aware of!!! The money is never enough
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Old November 30th, 2008, 09:38 PM   #1547
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Yeah, if one thing always lacks, it's money
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Old November 30th, 2008, 10:14 PM   #1548
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This are long-term financial liabilities of our motorway company. If you take into account that reveneus from current toll system are more or less constant you can see that we need a new system to finance our debt.



You should also note that we already have the highest taxes in the world so there is not a lot of room there either.
So if I got it right Slovenia has one nationalised motorway company?
Perhaps you should reform your system and surrender the sector partially to privately owned companies, making concessions or management contracts with whoever offers the best price-service ratio. In Portugal it is also the companies who manage the motorways that are responsible for upgrading them, following the contract agreements.
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Old November 30th, 2008, 10:20 PM   #1549
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Is bypass of Maribor finished ?
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Old November 30th, 2008, 11:09 PM   #1550
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So if I got it right Slovenia has one nationalised motorway company?
Perhaps you should reform your system and surrender the sector partially to privately owned companies, making concessions or management contracts with whoever offers the best price-service ratio. In Portugal it is also the companies who manage the motorways that are responsible for upgrading them, following the contract agreements.
Yes, we have one company. Privatization is not possible as then it would be hard to steal tax-payers money and seconldy, our motorway network is almost finished. And we use vignette for cars so it would be hard to fairly redistribute money.

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Old December 1st, 2008, 01:39 AM   #1551
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Yes, we have one company. Privatization is not possible as then it would be hard to steal tax-payers money and seconldy, our motorway network is almost finished. And we use vignette for cars so it would be hard to fairly redistribute money.
That's exactly the point. We have over 40 motorways in Portugal but throughout their lifespan they will need to be upgraded and expanded. Hence the concessionaire's obligation to cover the costs. I'm not saying this is the best method but this way no one is in debt.

I'm not sure how your vignette system works though. But even if you pay a flat rate for the usage of any motorway, that's the same system you get in England when you travel by train, and still there are several competing companies operating train services.
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Old December 1st, 2008, 04:14 PM   #1552
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Aren't concessionaires famous for not maintaining motorways properly?
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Old December 6th, 2008, 01:39 PM   #1553
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There was some big construction side of a tunnel somewhere between Portorož and Koper this summer, parallel to the 2 lane "primorska cesta" (which I love so much because of the sights ). Do you have pictures of it?
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Old December 6th, 2008, 02:03 PM   #1554
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There was some big construction side of a tunnel somewhere between Portoro× and Koper this summer, parallel to the 2 lane "primorska cesta" (which I love so much because of the sights ). Do you have pictures of it?
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Old December 6th, 2008, 02:24 PM   #1555
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Hvala! Nisem vedel da je to bilo hitra cesta...
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Old December 6th, 2008, 09:18 PM   #1556
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Old December 6th, 2008, 09:55 PM   #1557
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Hvala! Nisem vedel da je to bilo hitra cesta...
"vedel" is a hungarian slang word also, it means: quaff (drinks as a pelican)
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Old December 6th, 2008, 10:06 PM   #1558
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^ I think paF4uko didn't know, rather than quaff. Or maybe he quaffed on the expressway.
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Old December 6th, 2008, 11:09 PM   #1559
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Yep, I didn't know... Maybe we should use znati instead of vedeti to avoid confusions with Hungarians, but then it would tend more to Croatian...
Actually there was a quaffing part in Koper...
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