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Old March 29th, 2007, 04:54 AM   #41
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Is this building 1,140 feet from ground level ?
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Old March 29th, 2007, 06:29 AM   #42
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Is this building 1,140 feet from ground level ?
Where do you see 1140 feet?
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Old March 29th, 2007, 07:12 AM   #43
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Am I the only one who seems to find these two pictures similar?:


Louisville


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Alright, I couldnt find a clearer pics, but still, you get the idea. I just find a lot of similarities that could be drawn between the two. Just saying...
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Old March 29th, 2007, 09:04 AM   #44
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Wo, your right they look simular, theres older buildings that are bunched to gether, then on the right a huge complex that dominates.
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Old March 29th, 2007, 12:55 PM   #45
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The RenCen comparison, while compelling, is BS. The Detroit complex is MASSIVE. Even if the city's skyline built out to it, it will always look huge, bulky, and overbearing, where as MP is much more in-tune with the scale of the current skyline.
Secondly, the Humana building, the last building to the west in the main skyline cluster, is a mere two blocks away from Museum Plaza. The RenCen appears to be far more than a few blocks from the main skyline. The gaps look comparible, but Louisville is on a much smaller scale than Detroit, and filling the gap is a possibility, and is very likely.

Note the surface lot in the lower left. Twould be a prime spot for a tower that would situate right between the two entities.

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Old March 29th, 2007, 01:43 PM   #46
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Where do you see 1140 feet?
markie saw it right...but its 1,140 feet above sea level, not ground level.
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Old March 29th, 2007, 01:51 PM   #47
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The RenCen comparison, while compelling, is BS. The Detroit complex is MASSIVE. Even if the city's skyline built out to it, it will always look huge, bulky, and overbearing, where as MP is much more in-tune with the scale of the current skyline.
Secondly, the Humana building, the last building to the west in the main skyline cluster, is a mere two blocks away from Museum Plaza. The RenCen appears to be far more than a few blocks from the main skyline. The gaps look comparible, but Louisville is on a much smaller scale than Detroit, and filling the gap is a possibility, and is very likely.

Note the surface lot in the lower left. Twould be a prime spot for a tower that would situate right between the two entities.

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yeah, i agree...this updated model shows how museum plaza is just a hop skip and jump from main street.




the most obvious difference between museum plaza and the ren center, is that museum plaza is a single building, the ren cen is not..(from what i can see)

here i see five seperate buildings with five seperate bases....


if you take away those four buildings surrounding the one in the middle all you have is the westin peachtree building in Atlanta...which isn't a bad looking building at all...

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here i see one base...

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Old March 29th, 2007, 03:09 PM   #48
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markie saw it right...but its 1,140 feet above sea level, not ground level.
Yes that's right Soulbrotha ! But this design is still gonna look mighty impressive at 700+ feet
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Old March 29th, 2007, 05:34 PM   #49
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Fair Enough, and Good Points.

Just when I saw the riverfront pic, the Ren Cen came to mind. But as I see now, the comparisons mostly end beyond that.
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Old March 29th, 2007, 06:25 PM   #50
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I think a better historical comparison to this building is John Hancock in Chicago. When it was unveiled in the late 60's it faced heavy oppostion (much more than MP) due to it's location on the far Northern edge of downtown and a lack of height in that are. It also outraged purists who felt that the latest 'fads' in modern design would only diminish the importance of the beautiful art deco buildings such as the Palmolive Building.

A lot of similar concerns have been raised regarding Museum Plaza. And the similarities continue....

Both buildings use shocking and unique forms to stand out. They both celebrate the technology behind skyscraper design and place that at the forefront of their aesthetics. And they were designed to be a focal point of an active street scene.

What exactly does Reanaissance center have in common with any of this? The design itself wasn't really even that unique. Or was it helping to create an active street scene? lol!

Yes, from that ONE angle there appears to be a similar vibe. But that's precisely where the similarites end between these two projects.
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Old March 30th, 2007, 04:56 AM   #51
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This building will look SO different in every direction. I remember a render (i can't recall the location) which made the building almost look like two really tall towers (reminescent of the old Twins, in relation to the other buildings in downtown). One thing about the latest design for this building I do not like at all is the facade on South facing side. It reminds me a lot of the PNC building, and that building makes me want to vomit profusely. I really hope it doesn't turn out that way.
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Old March 30th, 2007, 09:21 AM   #52
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you are right, it does look a lot like the twin towers frpm certain angles...

was it this view? (this is before they altered the design)
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Old March 30th, 2007, 09:48 AM   #53
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The one I'm talking about was at street level, the island and the cube on top seemed to blend in with the other buildings along the street, and some of the building was hidden by trees so it made the two towers look incredibly tall, and completely seperate buildings. I think a lot of it had to do with the different heights of those two towers, which makes it seem like one is closer than the other. You can see it a little in that picture.
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Old April 1st, 2007, 10:30 AM   #54
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These towers will become instant icons.
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Old April 1st, 2007, 07:01 PM   #55
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They are definately going to re-brand Louisville.





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Old April 2nd, 2007, 03:32 AM   #56
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I really love this tower. To me, it's got a bit of a hopped up Dutch aesthetic. Quite nice, really. Fingers crossed that it's built.
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Old April 2nd, 2007, 04:52 AM   #57
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Very huge stuff indeed
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Old April 2nd, 2007, 06:09 AM   #58
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Ouch.
Sorry, but while this building may make a bold statement with its imagination, it is butt ugly. Despite the height, I would not want it in my skyline. I suppose time will tell what sort of impact this thing has on Louisville, but I don't like it. Nope.
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Old April 2nd, 2007, 06:43 AM   #59
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Ouch.
Sorry, but while this building may make a bold statement with its imagination, it is butt ugly. Despite the height, I would not want it in my skyline. I suppose time will tell what sort of impact this thing has on Louisville, but I don't like it. Nope.
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Old April 2nd, 2007, 07:15 AM   #60
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i just dont see anything outstanding about this building...its provocative...but not attractive at all
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