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Old December 11th, 2011, 04:40 PM   #6121
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Old December 12th, 2011, 04:27 AM   #6122
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Project Metro to stay on top
By: Ranjeet Jadhav Date: 2011-12-12 Place: Mumbai

Banking on Metro Man E Sreedharan's statement that underground networks are five times more prone to terror strikes, MMRDA will reason with Bandra, Juhu locals, who are against the elevated corridor

The Mumbai Metropolitan Region Development Authority (MMRDA), now has a strong excuse to refrain itself from going underground with the Metro rail project in Mumbai. Last week, Delhi Metro Rail Corporation (DMRC) Chief and Metro Man, E Sreedharan, had said that underground metro trains are five times more prone to terror strikes against the elevated ones.

The MMRDA is now planning to use Sreedharan's statement to convince the residents of Bandra and Juhu, who are opposing the proposed elevated Charkop-Bandra- Mankhurd (CBM) metro corridor.

Speaking to MiD DAY, an MMRDA official, requesting anonymity, said, "Last week, DMRC Chief while speaking at a programme clearly said that underground metro lines are more prone to terror attacks than the elevated ones, which is very true. We will take help of this statement to convince the residents of Juhu and Versova who are opposing the elevated CBM corridor."

Just a few months ago, a delegation led by local MP Priya Dutt, including MLA Baba Siddiqui, Krishna Hegde and residents from Bandra and Juhu, had met Chief Minister Prithviraj Chavan with a presentation highlighting pros and cons of the elevated and underground metro lines. The residents of Juhu and Bandra West are against MMRDA's plan to have an elevated route, as they feel that narrow roads will lead to ugly traffic jams during the construction period. However, MMRDA has already made it clear that it will only construct an elevated corridor, as the cost of constructing an underground one is five times higher than an elevated corridor.

Commenting on the issue, MMRDA Commissioner Rahul Asthana said, "We will seek expert advice for security-related issues pertaining to elevated and underground metro rail."

http://www.mid-day.com/news/2011/dec...Sreedharan.htm
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Old December 12th, 2011, 01:07 PM   #6123
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Project Metro to stay on top
By: Ranjeet Jadhav Date: 2011-12-12 Place: Mumbai

Banking on Metro Man E Sreedharan's statement that underground networks are five times more prone to terror strikes, MMRDA will reason with Bandra, Juhu locals, who are against the elevated corridor

The Mumbai Metropolitan Region Development Authority (MMRDA), now has a strong excuse to refrain itself from going underground with the Metro rail project in Mumbai. Last week, Delhi Metro Rail Corporation (DMRC) Chief and Metro Man, E Sreedharan, had said that underground metro trains are five times more prone to terror strikes against the elevated ones.

The MMRDA is now planning to use Sreedharan's statement to convince the residents of Bandra and Juhu, who are opposing the proposed elevated Charkop-Bandra- Mankhurd (CBM) metro corridor.

Speaking to MiD DAY, an MMRDA official, requesting anonymity, said, "Last week, DMRC Chief while speaking at a programme clearly said that underground metro lines are more prone to terror attacks than the elevated ones, which is very true. We will take help of this statement to convince the residents of Juhu and Versova who are opposing the elevated CBM corridor."

Just a few months ago, a delegation led by local MP Priya Dutt, including MLA Baba Siddiqui, Krishna Hegde and residents from Bandra and Juhu, had met Chief Minister Prithviraj Chavan with a presentation highlighting pros and cons of the elevated and underground metro lines. The residents of Juhu and Bandra West are against MMRDA's plan to have an elevated route, as they feel that narrow roads will lead to ugly traffic jams during the construction period. However, MMRDA has already made it clear that it will only construct an elevated corridor, as the cost of constructing an underground one is five times higher than an elevated corridor.

Commenting on the issue, MMRDA Commissioner Rahul Asthana said, "We will seek expert advice for security-related issues pertaining to elevated and underground metro rail."

http://www.mid-day.com/news/2011/dec...Sreedharan.htm
But when the work will start on 'Charkop-Mankhurd' line?
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Old December 12th, 2011, 02:59 PM   #6124
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The question should be when will they get basic clearances?

On Line 1, they are yet to open the part of JP Road , which they promised to open in 2 months in April 2011 (The board near depot still says that). Eight months down, still there is no sign of opening it back.

No questions from media too except for a small report on Sunday Mid-day
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Old December 12th, 2011, 06:50 PM   #6125
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Is MMRDA stupid? Whatever Sreedharan says, they will follow it blindly? U/g lines are more prone to terror but does that mean it outweighs other benefits of u/g over elevated lines.
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Old December 12th, 2011, 07:08 PM   #6126
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But when the work will start on 'Charkop-Mankhurd' line?
On what basis does Mr. Sreedharan say that U/g is 5 times more prone to terrorist attacks than elevated. And if he is so sure about this fact why did delhi metro build some sections in phase 1 and 2 underground. I think he is more concerned about a tokyo style nerve gas attack. But even after that incident countries continue to build underground metro and heavy rail lines.
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Old December 12th, 2011, 07:25 PM   #6127
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I guess, he probably wanted to say that in case of terror attack, u/g is 5 times more vulnerable than elevated. U/g simply cannot be more prone to terror attacks than elevated because both types will have same security set up. In fact, one can shoot at passing trains in elevated lines which is not possible with u/g lines.

Instead of dropping u/g because of risk, they can spend some money to beef up the security.
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Old December 12th, 2011, 08:46 PM   #6128
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Actually the question to Sreedharan was a loaded one. And he started answering positively and then had to bring it down to convince the interviewer.

All kind of Metro are equally prone to terror attacks. It is just that all the cities targeted by terrorsits have underground metro. The coincidence is that even within those cities the commercially imporatant parts have underground. Mumbai suburban, which is at grade, had terroist attacks. Whether elevated or underground, security should be highly alert in cities like Mumbai and Delhi.

And about Mid day report, it is a bakwas (I hate this irresponsible media, whose only aim is sensationalism). An anonymous official will have thousand opinions. Rahul Asthana has given a responsible reply. If the report is true, MMRDA will become a laughing stock, as just a few days back MMRDA planned a completely underground metro passing through high terror-prone zones of the city- Airport and almost all the important business districts of Mumbai - BKC, Andheri, Worli, Nariman Point.
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Old December 13th, 2011, 02:23 AM   #6129
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I'm kind of disappointed that Sreedharan would say something like that, what evidence does he have for underground metro's being more prone to terror attacks? That sounds like complete bullshit.
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Old December 13th, 2011, 04:39 AM   #6130
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and he has assigned a factor of 5 as well ! Not sure if that statement has substance ... Except for military bunkers, I think there is terrorist risk to any structure, both under or over the ground. Isn't it ?
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Old December 13th, 2011, 07:02 AM   #6131
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Actually MMRDA blundered big time in quoting sreedharan in this. They might have thought Sreedharan being known as the Metro Man, it would be easier to sell the idea.
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Old December 13th, 2011, 07:58 AM   #6132
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Is MMRDA stupid? Whatever Sreedharan says, they will follow it blindly? U/g lines are more prone to terror but does that mean it outweighs other benefits of u/g over elevated lines.
Absolutely right! Well said.
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Old December 13th, 2011, 08:01 AM   #6133
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@coolguyz - great pictures. Thanks for the updates.
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Old December 13th, 2011, 02:47 PM   #6134
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@Coolguyz : Awesome pictures. Thank you for keeping us well informed with your pictures.

Mr. Sreedharan is MetroGod..

Really wanna know how many times the MMRDA has flipflopped between u/g and elevated. Don' t they have anyone there with basic knowledge about rapid transit systems and the pros and cons.

Also lets make our MetroGod the Minister for Railways and see how he can improve it starting with reducing the number of accidents..

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Old December 13th, 2011, 03:19 PM   #6135
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Old December 13th, 2011, 03:20 PM   #6136
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Old December 13th, 2011, 03:56 PM   #6139
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