Mumbai Metro Updates

[qwertyasd]

thanks vikramv1

[shanware]

Originally Posted by qwertyasd

thanks vikramv1

+1

[mumbairail]

thank you vikramv1

[SBC-YPR]

Thanks for the pics, Vikram

Could you please also caption the pics with their respective locations?

[vikramv1]

welcome...I will try to get weekly pics on saturdays and sundays when i am free so that you can dose of updates happening on the metro rail weekly...

[mumbairail]

Originally Posted by vikramv1

welcome...I will try to get weekly pics on saturdays and sundays when i am free so that you can dose of updates happening on the metro rail weekly...

thanks thats a great idea. I will wait for the photos every weekend.

[sumant]

BMC seeks cut in Metro revenue from MMRDA

Demands 50 pc share, threatens to stall MMRDA proposals, including permission for commercial use of space at stations

By Sudhir Suryawanshi
Posted On Thursday, March 04, 2010 at 03:02:37 AM
If the Mumbai Metro is to have a smooth run, Mumbai Metropolitan Region Development Authority (MMRDA) will have to share its revenue with the Brihanmumbai Municipal Corporation (BMC).

Work on the Mumbai Metro project near Jogeshwari. BMC is seeking a slice of the profits to augment the city’s water supply and build better infrastructure

For, if MMRDA refuse to give BMC a cut in the revenue, the latter has threatened to stall all its proposals, including granting of permission for commercial use of 1.25 lakh sq mts at stations on the upcoming Versova-Ghatkopar Metro route.

BMC’s improvements committee chairman, Shailesh Phanse, said they have asked MMRDA to share 50 per cent of the revenue.

“We have been providing them with all civic infrastructure and amenities, including water. It is MMRDA’s duty to give us an equal share of the revenue. That money could be used for augmentation of the city’s water supply to build better roads and construct bridges. I will take up the issue at the next meeting,” said Phanse.

Another committee member said that since BMC is facing a financial crisis, the share of revenue could start new projects for the betterment of the city.

According to the MMRDA proposal forwarded to the improvements committee, there are plans to use around 1.25 lakh sq mts of space for commercial purposes (shops and other facilities) at 14 railway stations.

“The Metro project will be a source of profit for MMRDA. But, if MMRDA is unwilling to share revenue with us, we will not pass their proposal. We will not even extend civic amenities like sewerage lines to MMRDA projects,” he threatened.

Phanse pointed out that MMRDA is paying Rs 10 crore to Railways just for an NOC to build a bridge on which the Metro rail will cross the Western Railway tracks at Andheri. “Similarly, why cannot we ask MMRDA to pay us for permission?” Phanse said.

While MMRDA spokesperson Dilip Kavatkar said they will verify BMC’s proposal before taking a decision, another MMRDA official said that the BMC demand is not viable.

“We are undertaking the Metro, Mono Rail, skywalks and other projects to develop infrastructure in the city which is in a shoddy state. Actually, it is BMC’s duty to undertake such projects to make Mumbai a world class city. Instead, we are doing their job, and now they want a 50 per cent share in revenue, which is sad. That can delay development in the city,” he said, on condition of anonymity.

http://www.mumbaimirror.com/article/...rom-MMRDA.html

[Abhishek901]

BMC seems to have gone crazy. Already metro is highly capital intensive with most of its revenues expected to come from property development and they want a share in that too !!

[buddy_rohan]

50% share in revenues....thats too much. What is BMC doing for metro? its job is to provide amenities and get money for that, thats it. Thats like BMC telling a businessman - 'we will not provide water supply to your office, unless you give us some share from your profits'.
also, did MMRDA really pay 10 crore just for an NOC? it is understandable if you pay fees for access on rail land and tracks to build structures but 10 crores?

[sumant]

They havent paid yet, Its under discussion .

[IchimaruGin1]

why are they even thinking of giving 10 crores for a NOC to Indian railways? With that action MMDRA might as well put up a sign to every other agency "Please Extort Money"

sometimes i feel mumbai has too many agencies. MMDRA MSRDC, CIDCO, BMC , TMC, NMMC.

its hampering all our projects. Lets have one agency for the entire metropolitan area and just merge all the areas into one single entity, everything becomes greater mumbai metro area.

So its a question of either bmc or MMRDA.

the role of the bmc is not clearly defined either. They dont just provide the utilities. They also provide the bus transport in the city and oddly now even Thane were they are having turf battles with the TMC.

So either we say, BMC only for sewage water and electricity.

MSDRC only for roads bridges and their upkeep.

MMDRA metro and monorail bus service and developing BKC and other cbd


as things stand everybody is doing everything and getting into others way.

I read somewhere that if Indian railways do decide connect churchgate to cst underground then it will mean sayonarra to the metro line till colaba.

Its the same with trans harbour link. Two agencies fighting with each other for the same bridge.

Too many agencies with undefined parameters.

[IchimaruGin1]

and just to pin point how retarded our agencies are in asking each other

Is the rail minister aware of the Metro project?

Indian Railways seems to be oblivious to the Mumbai’s metro rail projects. How else does one explain the railway minister’s announcement for a feasibility study to connect the two iconic stations of Mumbai - Chhatrapati Shivaji Terminus and Churchgate?

The third phase of the Metro project between Bandra and Colaba is on the verge of going through the tender process to get it off the ground; the 20-km route will have two stations — CST Metro and Hutatma Chowk. Now where is the need — even if possible — for a line parallel to the Metro route? Officials in the MMRDA, which is the nodal agency for Mumbai’s Metro aspirations, are fuming.

Most of them point out that once the metro line is commissioned and stations are in place, the entry/exit points would in all probability — like in the European model — give access to both CST and Churchgate stations. Not only can churchgate be accessed from Hutatma Chowk station, but also from Mantralaya station (one of the stops on metro III route).

At the outset, MMRDA officials keep claiming that there is complete coordination between various agencies for implementing mega projects as the metro. But the fact, which many of them vouch for, is that there is absolutely zilch coordination between the railways and the authority.

“We have been following the entire infrastructure development based on the Comprehensive Transport Study (CTS) prepared by us since the past few years. The Metro master plan has also been carved out of CTS.

There is no question that railways will not be aware about it. It really surprises us that in spite of knowing about CTS, the railways have been trying to interfere in the metro programme,” said a top MMRDA official without wanting to be named.

A case in point, he said, was the Churchgate-Virar elevated corridor announced by ex-railways minister Lalu Prasad in February 2008 — feasibility study for which is still on. The elevated corridor envisaged would have clashed with the Versova-Andheri-Ghatkopar Metro-I line when it crosses over the existing Andheri tracks. All in all, a holistic planning on the part of railways in conjunction with the Metro planners seems to be missing.

http://www.dnaindia.com/mumbai/repor...roject_1352243

[IchimaruGin1]

and the third post in my rant is.

does anybody know how many metro lines the mmrda have planned?

I keep reading about new lines every month. I even read about a borivali to thane, then a borivali to mulund monorail and then a goregoan to mulund metro line via thane .then other stuff as well like extending the mulund ghatkopar metro line all the way to kalyan. Other perennials include connecting uran to colaba via an undersea tunnel for a metro.

either our newspapers do a horrible job and speculate about lines looking at the map or mmdra has a lot of people who want to sell their bogus stories to the media as an insider for a few bucks.

[sumant]

These are the metro line proposed at present
Phase I
Versova - Andheri – Ghatkopar - 11.07 km (Construction started, expected to be complete by 2010)
Dahisar (E) - Charkop - Bandra - Mankhurd - 39.2 km
Colaba - Bandra - Airport - 30 km
Phase II
Ghatkopar – Mulund - 12.4 km
Phase III
Airport - Kanjur Marg - 9.5 km
Andheri(E) - Dahisar(E) - 18 km
Hutatma Chowk – Ghatkopar - 21.8 km
Sewri – Prabhadevi - 3.5 km

Navi Mumbai Metro
Belapur - Mansarovar - 24 km
Seawood - Panvel - 19 km
Mankhurd - Vashi - Nerul - Ulve - 14 km

source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mumbai_Metro

[bharatiya]

Obviously there will be some additions during Phase 2

[qwertyasd]

When in doubt, go to the source.

http://mmrdamumbai.org/projects_metro_rail.htm

Of course, that may be a bit out of date as well :-)

[SBC-YPR]

^

It is The website still indicates line-2 to be Charkop-Bandra-Colaba.

[buddy_rohan]

thsi post should be in mumbai transport thread but just for continuity:

ichimarugin, true they have so many agencies. but CIDCO and NMMC are only for Navi Mumbai. and they need TMC too, coz a single BMC cannot handle entire greater mumbai region. BMC have been running buses since the beginning, so if they run buses in thane too, TMC shouldnt complain unless they themselves provide transportation, which they dont. MSRDC is for the state not just mumbai, and they are mainly into bridges, roads and highways. that leaves metro type developments. so who will build them? therefore, MMRDA. this was my understanding. nevethelss, none of them have proper coordination. and on top of this, IR proposes other things.

[shanware]

The BMC -MMRDA 'issue' is mostly political. It probably has to do with the BJP-SS run BMC wanting its slice of the Mumbai pie.

[vikramv1]

Originally Posted by SBC-YPR

Thanks for the pics, Vikram

Could you please also caption the pics with their respective locations?

All of these pics are between Saki Naka and WEH on the Andheri Kurla Road (Basically on the same road). I am not too sure of the list of stations coming up on the stretch though