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Old June 14th, 2009, 07:23 PM   #1201
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Definately. Also if CS wasn't on hold at this stage Pentominium would top out earlier. Construction speed in Dubai is quicker than in US, for sure.
Not necessarily...

The US and Dubai both have towers that seem to crawl along, and others that just shoot up overnight. That darn 16 acre site in manhattan does screw with people's perceptions of America's construction speed.
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Old June 14th, 2009, 10:49 PM   #1202
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This is one of the cheap labour advantage of course!
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Old June 15th, 2009, 03:26 PM   #1203
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Old June 15th, 2009, 08:43 PM   #1204
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Not necessarily...

The US and Dubai both have towers that seem to crawl along, and others that just shoot up overnight. That darn 16 acre site in manhattan does screw with people's perceptions of America's construction speed.
Ok, maybe I'm a little infected by what I see in NY.. Damn that's slow... But I know that's not normal. I think because of the far easier floorplates and probably an easier construction method and because they are ahead in Dubai compared to the CS, that Pentominium will be finished earlier. At least if construction continues.
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Old June 15th, 2009, 11:18 PM   #1205
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pentomonium also has a spire where cs has fully used floors ;-) you cant compare these two towers, one is a 600m tower, the other one is a 500m tower with a 100m spire
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Old June 16th, 2009, 02:13 AM   #1206
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pentomonium also has a spire where cs has fully used floors ;-) you cant compare these two towers, one is a 600m tower, the other one is a 500m tower with a 100m spire
Thats right , big difference.
CS earns it height honestly, with no "height cheater" bolted on the side.
If it looked like it was part of the tower, it would be OK.
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Old June 16th, 2009, 02:37 AM   #1207
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Thats right , big difference.
CS earns it height honestly, with no "height cheater" bolted on the side.
If it looked like it was part of the tower, it would be OK.
The big difference:

Pentominium: U/C

CS: ON HOLDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
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Old June 16th, 2009, 07:40 AM   #1208
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Exactly what i want to say Pentominium is not as big challenge as cs is, but at least it is still going forward well. Its like with that illinois (or however it was called) tower, yeah it was going to be 1600m or something. But only was going to, and never build. So thats no point comparing tower witch is going to be build, and one that is only on paper.

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Old June 18th, 2009, 07:52 AM   #1209
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the panorama from upper view its great...looks like took picture from level 40...
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Old June 20th, 2009, 11:22 PM   #1210
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Exactly what i want to say Pentominium is not as big challenge as cs is, but at least it is still going forward well. Its like with that illinois (or however it was called) tower, yeah it was going to be 1600m or something. But only was going to, and never build. So thats no point comparing tower witch is going to be build, and one that is only on paper.
For now, CS is more advanced in construction than TP, let's hope it won't go on hold...
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Old June 21st, 2009, 12:11 AM   #1211
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I didn't say cs will never be build. But nothing will change the fact that pentominium is going forward well in crisis time, when cs whaits for better time. So anybody saying that "cs earns its hight honestly" simply missed the point, becouse all it earns now is something around -10m right?
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Old June 21st, 2009, 01:23 AM   #1212
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Only foundation is partly done. Nothing above ground yet.
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is it only me who thinks its going quite slow ?
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Old June 21st, 2009, 08:09 PM   #1214
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is it only me who thinks its going quite slow ?
You're definetly not the only one.
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Old June 22nd, 2009, 11:29 AM   #1215
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This time hurts! But if it go slow - it's much better than no progress !!
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Old June 22nd, 2009, 10:36 PM   #1216
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My own opinion ( and usualy am very optimistic!) neither this one or CS will raies up in at least couple of years!!
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Old June 22nd, 2009, 10:38 PM   #1217
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Old June 22nd, 2009, 11:23 PM   #1218
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Sorry but... what is CS?
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cs - shicago spire
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Old June 23rd, 2009, 12:07 PM   #1220
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I didn't say cs will never be build. But nothing will change the fact that pentominium is going forward well in crisis time, when cs whaits for better time. So anybody saying that "cs earns its hight honestly" simply missed the point, becouse all it earns now is something around -10m right?
by your own logic the pentomium still doesnt earn its height. you just gave it another reason. both projects are still holes in the ground. this project still has a very good chance of being put on hold. so until i see some actual floors rising into the air im not gonna hold my breath on completion. the CS still has a pretty good chance of finishing up before this one cause the foundation is already done.
the whole point of CS earning its height is it doesnt use a spire like this one does so you missed the point whether or not CS is on hold doesnt matter.
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