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Old February 27th, 2011, 09:32 PM   #2021
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Old March 1st, 2011, 12:59 PM   #2022
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Good news for CNGL: 2 new kilometers of A-23 opened yesterday between Huesca and Jaca.

http://www.pirineodigital.com/2011/n...utovia-a23.htm
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Old March 1st, 2011, 04:14 PM   #2023
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I know, I know. They already posted that on Aragonese subforum. But I have already "clinched" that section because one of the carriageways was the N-330. I have marked part of A-2 South of Girona... and when I clinched that back in 2005 it was the N-II.
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Old March 4th, 2011, 07:02 PM   #2024
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110 km/h Motorway speed limit will start next Monday and be kept until, at least, June 30th (information from spanish newpapers today). Moment on which the goverment says it will decide if Spain gets back to 120 km/h or keeps the 110 maximun more time. It will depend on the price of oil at that moment, according to the goverment.

In the worst case scenario it's likely that the messure will be removed on 2012 after the presidential elections, as according to polls it's extremely unlikely that Zapatero or the Socialist party keep the spanish central goverment.
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Old March 5th, 2011, 12:35 AM   #2025
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110 km/h Motorway speed limit will start next Monday and be kept until, at least, June 30th (information from spanish newpapers today). Moment on which the goverment says it will decide if Spain gets back to 120 km/h or keeps the 110 maximun more time. It will depend on the price of oil at that moment, according to the goverment.

In the worst case scenario it's likely that the messure will be removed on 2012 after the presidential elections, as according to polls it's extremely unlikely that Zapatero or the Socialist party keep the spanish central goverment.
So you are going to have only 110 km/h for all motorways in Spain? No motorway with at least 120 km/h? And that means all Autovia and Autopista? Not only Autovia? If that's correct that means Spanish motorways are going some of the slowest in Europe.
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Old March 5th, 2011, 12:54 AM   #2026
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As far as I know, its all Autovias and Autopistas. It also means that desolate Spanish motorways are going to have lower speed limits than quite a few urban Portuguese motorways...
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Old March 5th, 2011, 07:57 AM   #2027
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As far as I know, its all Autovias and Autopistas. It also means that desolate Spanish motorways are going to have lower speed limits than quite a few urban Portuguese motorways...
Correct. All Autovias and Autopistas, even the toll ones... Very very sad indeed... 110 km/h speed limit on a 3x3 motorway such as the Ap-7 (originally built for unlimited speed, german style) it's beyond absurd...

Spain with this ridiculously low new speed limit and Portugal with the new ridiculously complex toll system for foreign cars that begun this year (prepaid, minimum 100 eur for foreign cars, no pay in cash option, no booths, all electronic...), are both going to give tourists unplaseant fines by suprise this summer... not the best idea when you need tourism to improve the local economy....
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Old April 3rd, 2011, 08:22 PM   #2028
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For those who intend to cross Spain North-to-South through autovia A1, be advised that roadworks have been resumed after a winter pause:
A1 Castilla-Leon roadworks

This means several road sections with just one lane in each direction, or narrower lanes with overtaking restrictions.

The works are expected to be finished late this year, so with all probability this summer will be as problematic as last year's.
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Old April 4th, 2011, 07:35 PM   #2029
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For those who intend to cross Spain North-to-South through autovia A1, be advised that roadworks have been resumed after a winter pause:
A1 Castilla-Leon roadworks

This means several road sections with just one lane in each direction, or narrower lanes with overtaking restrictions.

The works are expected to be finished late this year, so with all probability this summer will be as problematic as last year's.
For someone going Burgos-Algeciras, would you recommend the route through Valladolid-Salamanca-Sevilla?
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Old April 4th, 2011, 08:26 PM   #2030
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For someone going Burgos-Algeciras, would you recommend the route through Valladolid-Salamanca-Sevilla?
To be honest, I have never gone south of Madrid by car , only by train or airplane, so I don't know how much additional travel time or how many km adds your route. Depending on a series of factors(*) it could be a good idea, if only because you avoid traffic jams around Madrid. But there could be heavy traffic from European citizens of Portuguese origin in the Burgos-Salamanca section, methinks (but without roadworks, AFAIK).

(*) like traveling on Sunday or an Spanish bank holiday, or one of these days in which many Spaniards finish their vacation (July 31st, August 1st, July 25th, August 15th...)
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For someone going Burgos-Algeciras, would you recommend the route through Valladolid-Salamanca-Sevilla?
I'd say yes. That's the fastest route according by Google Maps, also the A-4 is full of road works in the plains of La Mancha, the Despeñaperros mountain pass and Andalusia. In the A-62 you will find many truck traffic, however, the A-66 is pretty quiet.


The A-2 is also full of road works between Madrid and Zaragoza.
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Spain further solidified its position as the country with the busiest road in Europe. The M-30 in Madrid carries 328 000 vehicles per day south of M-23 (2009).

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For someone going Burgos-Algeciras, would you recommend the route through Valladolid-Salamanca-Sevilla?
For sure, I do cross Spain from North to South a lot and taking the A66 you will avoid crossing Madrid and at the same time you will enjoy a great new road with a very nice landscape.
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Old April 8th, 2011, 09:02 PM   #2034
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Where can I find current map of Autovias and Autopistas under construction and finished? I realized that all the paper maps show different status of the same road projects.
Map simillar to the one in the Polish subforum would be nice.
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Today 5 km of A-8 Autovía del Cantabrica opened to traffic in Galicia. This will be the beginning of the completion of the last major missing motorway in Spain. A-8 will connect San Sebastian with A Coruña, creating a long east-westlink along the Spanish Costa Verde.
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Where can I find current map of Autovias and Autopistas under construction and finished? I realized that all the paper maps show different status of the same road projects.
Map simillar to the one in the Polish subforum would be nice.
I don't know, but I'm taking advantage of your question to ask a related one (which I asked ages ago and never got an answer to): Who publishes the best road maps (I'm specifically interested in an atlas) for Spain, and is there a good on-line book store or map store in Spain who might ship to the U.S.?
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I don't know, but I'm taking advantage of your question to ask a related one (which I asked ages ago and never got an answer to): Who publishes the best road maps (I'm specifically interested in an atlas) for Spain, and is there a good on-line book store or map store in Spain who might ship to the U.S.?
Michelin road atlases are the best IMO. They have detailed coverage, nice graphics and up-to-date info on roads. The have national, regional and European-wide road atlases.

You can check the design of maps on www.viamichelin.co.uk . The zoom tool is a bit messy: it has 8 or 10 levels, but just 2 or 3 scales display actual atlases images (you will clearly notice it).
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Old April 9th, 2011, 07:29 AM   #2038
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Spain's Fomento maps their highways and motorways in their annual atlas, which includes a CD.
http://www.fomento.es/MFOM/LANG_CAST...lt.htm?lang=en
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Today 5 km of A-8 Autovía del Cantabrica opened to traffic in Galicia. This will be the beginning of the completion of the last major missing motorway in Spain. A-8 will connect San Sebastian with A Coruña, creating a long east-westlink along the Spanish Costa Verde.
It should be totally finished in 2012

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Where can I find current map of Autovias and Autopistas under construction and finished? I realized that all the paper maps show different status of the same road projects.
Map simillar to the one in the Polish subforum would be nice.
Try this: http://mapadeautovias.pacopaco.es/

There are some mistakes and it's not updated though.

Use right click to zoom in or zoom out.

-Dashed lines (except black, yellow or purple) mean U/C.
-Black dots mean informative study being made.
-Yellow dashed lines mean informative study on public information.
-Purple dashed lines mean informative study approved.
-Black dashed lines mean project being made.

I'm not sure if I translated those terms correctly since they are technical words used in Spain. I would only take seriously the ones with a project being made. The rest, with some exceptions, are likely to be either disapproved by the Environmental authorities or cancelled due to a lack of profitability.


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Spain's Fomento maps their highways and motorways in their annual atlas, which includes a CD.
http://www.fomento.es/MFOM/LANG_CAST...lt.htm?lang=en
The most famous are Guía Repsol (here the web version) and the official Fomento maps (available in English according to Fomento.es).

The latter are quite good, although the PC version may be confusing at first since it includes many symbols by default, but of course you can hide/show what you want. It includes monuments, monasteries, ruins, castles, bridges, caves, mountain paths, scenic routes (including hotel locations), statistics about towns, "paradores", rural houses, street maps, accesses to cities... it's the most complete IMO.

This is how it looks (as I said before, you can hide/show what you want):


Detailed info about natural spaces:


Mountain paths:


Even photos:


Search of special locations:


A route planner:




And even a scheme of the M-30 and M-40
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¡Muchísimas gracias!

After asking my question I searched Google and found a travel bookstore in Madrid and Barcelona called Altaïr, which led me to something called El Guión, by a publisher called Anaya, and an atlas by GeoPlaneta. But I can't find a place to sample the cartography. (Stanfords Maps in London, whose website will show samples for most things, doesn't carry these).

(To Suburbanist: I'm familiar with Michelin - they're great in France and the Benelux - but I'm interested in something more detailed than what they do for Spain. Thanks for your reply though.)

Now all we need is an Amazon Spain - I order French stuff from Amazon France all the time (well, whenever I can afford to...). Is casadellibro.com any good? (Amazon France's site is extremely easy to conduct precise searches on in the travel area.)
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