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Old September 6th, 2011, 08:51 PM   #2341
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"Supersur" South metropolitan variant of Bilbao goes to be open this Saturday almost 18Km road with a cost of 900 millon of Euro.

http://www.elcorreo.com/vizcaya/2011...109061205.html
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Old September 7th, 2011, 12:33 PM   #2342
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Any updates regarding M-61 north of Madrid ?
Nothing but a line in some maps.

National elections are held shortly, may be after elections the same party will rule both national and regional governments, so things will go smoothly.

Unfortunately M-61 is polluted by politics from the very beginning.
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Old September 10th, 2011, 05:02 PM   #2343
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The Supersur bypass (E70) in Bilbao is now open. For the first few days it is free, but from next Tuesday* will be tolled. I would pay the euro (exactly €1.08 for cars) for the Supersur to avoid the Bilbao traffic if any day I go there.

*Tuesday the 13th, bad luck day here, like Friday the 13th in the US.
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Old September 10th, 2011, 05:15 PM   #2344
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Wow, amazing infrastructure. I remember to see a thread of the argentinean motorways where someone posted an image from Spain. It was clearly not Argentinean cause it was way better, more modern, beautiful, organized and safe. Congratulations... When I went to Madrid and Barcelona, we rode a little the freeways. They're very impressive.
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Old September 10th, 2011, 05:45 PM   #2345
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Are there any numbering changes concerning the Bilbao Supersur? Will the new alignment be renumbered to AP-8 and the old one remains A-8?
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Old September 10th, 2011, 05:49 PM   #2346
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Yes, and the E70 gets onto the new route.
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Old September 11th, 2011, 12:15 AM   #2347
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About the name of "autopista" and "autovía"... a very interesting post in the Spanish forum.
It is in Spanish and I make a summary:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...postcount=2805


With the first motorways they could decide to make as at Italy or France (all toll ones except beside biggest cities) or as at Germany (all free ones).

They made most of them tolled (some of the first ones were free).

Later, in the begining of the 90s they opened a huge "motorway" network, where some old roads were updated to a dual carriageway.

It had the limit of 120 km/h as well as in a motorway, and at least two lanes per direction.

But there were some differences, mainly access to them and exits, as well as curves, lanes, etc...


Once built the problem came about "who to pay the maintenance?".

With the Schengen treaty just "opened", Germany requested about incomings because using free motorways by any vehicle (specially trucks because maintenance). As well as no stops are in the border, imposible to put a tax for anyone entering the country with a vehicle.

It is considered the problem and European Union will pay for the toll-free motorways lanes (E-XX).

How to adapt it at Spain?. Easy... all N-XX dual carriageway became to A-XX (and toll ones A-XX to AP-XX). White signals changed to blue signals and they prepared a full project of updating all "old highways".

New motorways made at Spain have no differences if tolled or free-toll but old ones have.

The first part of the refurbishment project is going to finish. Budget was really important.



So then... the name of "autovia" should be considered as obsolete.

Should anyone have any question, he can post here or even in the Spanish Forum (do not be worried if writting in English).
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Old September 11th, 2011, 01:30 AM   #2348
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A-7 Fuengirola

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A-7 Malaga

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Old September 11th, 2011, 08:50 PM   #2349
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A short video I've just found, the new AP-8 (Supersur) in Bilbao.

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Old September 15th, 2011, 06:50 PM   #2350
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Towards Bilbao
8:15 am
April 2011
Pics were taken from a bus, so quality is not as good as I'd like


A-8






Main way is the new AP-8 (VSM)






Towards Trapagarán bridge












Impressive structure




Traffic jam...






Barakaldo

















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Old September 15th, 2011, 06:53 PM   #2351
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Getting into Bilbao municipality








Basurto Bilbao new access’ works








We could appreciate Iberdrola tower












Sabino Arana Bilbao entrance will be dismantled next year.










BILBAO

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Old September 15th, 2011, 10:29 PM   #2352
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A short video I've just found, the new AP-8 (Supersur) in Bilbao.

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Publicado el 14 septiembre, 2011 por Bilbao en Construcción!

El pasado fin de semana se inauguró la primera fase de la Variante Sur Metropolitana de Bilbao, la autovía conocida popularmente como “Supersur”.

Os muestro un vídeo que he hecho sobre el tramo inaugurado en su primer fin de semana de servicio:


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Old September 16th, 2011, 04:44 PM   #2353
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Finaly they connected the AP8 and AP68 southbound?

Passed there several times befor the A1 (Extegerate??) was concluded and the smell was realy bad.
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Old September 16th, 2011, 07:08 PM   #2354
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No, it's not that. It's a new bypass of Bilbao. They have to connect the Supersur (E70) to E804, and then they will extend Supersur to Amorebieta. In the more distant future they will build a new tunnel from current Western terminus to Muskiz.
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Old September 17th, 2011, 12:28 AM   #2355
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Just a brief hi to all of you. I'm in Valencia now, 1 day away from the end of my vacation: tomorrow I'm coming back to Brescia with some interesting pics and thoughts to share with you about Spanish roads.

See you soon!
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Old September 17th, 2011, 12:32 AM   #2356
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Good to see you. I pm'd you before I saw this post. I was in your hometown a few days ago.
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Old September 18th, 2011, 07:19 PM   #2357
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A few pics taken yesterday in the A66 (Seville-Gijon)

A66 going up to Bejar from Extremadura, in Baños de Montemayor, just near the border with Castilla y Leon.






AP66 in Rioseco de Tapia. taken to South (Leon)



AP66 in Rioseco de Tapia. taken to North (Asturias)



AP66 Bridge Fernandez Casado. taken from highway CL623, just under the bridge.




AP66 Bridge Fernadez Casado. Info Post.

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Old September 18th, 2011, 10:35 PM   #2358
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A-66 makes possible to go north-south toll-free without passing by Madrid.

And it is a route "made" by Romans!!!!!
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Old September 18th, 2011, 11:26 PM   #2359
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A-66 makes possible to go north-south toll-free without passing by Madrid.

And it is a route "made" by Romans!!!!!
Except Campomanes-León
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Old September 19th, 2011, 07:45 PM   #2360
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And Sevilla-Cadiz (even if it is AP-4, it is also Silver Route)
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