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Old June 12th, 2012, 03:37 PM   #2841
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It was a long-awaited project, Despeñaperros pass was the only non-motorway-standard part of A-4 and it could get really busy in holidays. The bypass is fully 2x3.
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Old June 12th, 2012, 08:14 PM   #2842
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It had to be open in "twice" because for finishing this last strech they had to work from one of the old platforms. This is, the easiest way for building was opening first almost all the Pass, finally the one part opened yesterday
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Old June 12th, 2012, 11:57 PM   #2843
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A video of motorways C-35, C-65 and C-31 in Girona province. Together they form Anella de les Gavarres, a motorway system that helps to reach Costa Brava from Barcelona and Girona. I filmed all the motorway from its start at AP-7 to its northern terminus in Palafrugell.



At 11:00 there is a double-deck stretch similar to the one in Barcelona's Ronda de Dalt. Watch it in HD!
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Old June 19th, 2012, 10:16 PM   #2844
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The Spanish government will reduce the speed limit from 100 to 90 km/h in all non-motorway, non-urban roads. For safety reasons, they say. Source (in Spanish): http://www.elmundo.es/elmundo/2012/0...340034466.html

At the same time, the speed limit on all motorways will depend on weather conditions. The limit will be rised up to 130 km/h when the surface is dry (as in France). Source (in Catalan): http://www.ara.cat/societat/Jorge_Fe...721727900.html


Oh the other hand, there are rumours that the government is going to introduce a vignette system for most, if not all, of the motorway network. These changes in the speed limits are reinforcing the rumours: You don't want to pay? Your speed is limited to 90 km/h. You pay? Good boy, now you can drive at 130 km/h instead of 120.

Don't get me wrong, I prefer a vignette system to the current system in which tolled motorways are concentrated in specific areas. Check my region (La Rioja): More than 70% of our motorways are tolled. Then check Cantabria, the Canary Islands or Extremadura: 0% tolled.


Many of the refurbished/new national (even regional) roads are designed almost with motorway characteristics (including at-grade separation), but with only one carriageway. The speed is limited to 100 km/h because you find oncoming traffic. IMO this kind of roads should probably get the "expressway" sign and keep the 100 km/h limit.



Speaking of the possible change to a vignette system, I proposed a new nomenclature for the Spanish motorway system. The "AP/A" distinction would no longer make sense, as there would be no free motorways.

I also proposed the change of the "AUTOVÍA" signs to the typical motorway signs for the newest autovías, as there is no difference design-wise. This is true at least for State-owned motorways.

The arrows in the maps mean that those autovías, despite being old, are being refurbished to modern standards, then they would get the motorway sign once the refurbishment is complete.

Some autovías are "demoted" to expressways.

The speed limits for my proposal would be: Autopistas 140 km/h, autovías 120 km/h, expressways 100 km/h.


North Central:


Catalonia:


Valencia Region:


South:


Castile and Leon:




What do you guys think?

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Old June 19th, 2012, 11:12 PM   #2845
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You proposed this new scheme to authorities or just here?
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Old June 20th, 2012, 12:04 AM   #2846
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Old June 20th, 2012, 12:50 AM   #2847
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You proposed this new scheme to authorities or just here?
Just here
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Old June 21st, 2012, 11:41 AM   #2848
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It makes more sense than the current system, especially as it assimilates newly-built autovías to autopistas. Today's distinction between these two road types is pointless.

Just as pointless as the speed-limit reduction in regular roads. So far, they haven't said if this will affect single-carriageway roads only, or dual-carriageways too. It is a shame, especially for high-standard, expressway-like single carriageway roads such as corredores in Galicia, and other roads with wide shoulders and smooth corners where you can always drive 100 km/h.

Btw, limit increase to 130 in motorways is not yet decided. Apparently, a 10 km/h increase in the speed limit may cause our motorways to implode and create a black hole in the middle of Spain, so it has to be approached with extreme caution.
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Old June 21st, 2012, 04:03 PM   #2849
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Wasn´t there a reduction of speed limit a few month ago in Spain? 110km/h?
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Old June 21st, 2012, 04:17 PM   #2850
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It was one year ago, it was temporal (to control the imports of fuel or something like that) and with other government.

Currently the speed limit is 120...
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Old June 21st, 2012, 04:55 PM   #2851
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Wasn´t there a reduction of speed limit a few month ago in Spain? 110km/h?


Yeah, but as said, only for about 4 months last year.

Today's 120
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Old June 21st, 2012, 05:11 PM   #2852
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So they changed all the speed signs to 110 only for a couple of month?

Hope they never install a weird toll system like they did in Portugal for the non-tolled motorways...
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Old June 21st, 2012, 06:34 PM   #2853
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According to the official data we saved money with the measure but I'm not that sure...

The signals were not changed... they put stickers over them... twice (because it was "impossible" to take off the 110 stickers)... it was way cheaper than replacing the signals but expensive anyway...

The stickers have a good quality and usually you cannot realize about the difference between an original signal and one with a sticker.
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Old June 22nd, 2012, 01:03 AM   #2854
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The stickers have a good quality and usually you cannot realize about the difference between an original signal and one with a sticker.

In fact, sometimes they update the name of a road or motorway and put a sticker on the signal with the new name.

Should the signal is old, the sticker is usually easier to be seen in the night than the rest of the signal, just because it is a new one, with normal standards...
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Old June 22nd, 2012, 02:58 AM   #2855
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you are right but I've also seen signals in which a complete row looks much newer than the other parts of the signal... is it a row-sticker or a replacement of the row?
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Old June 23rd, 2012, 08:22 PM   #2856
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Works on several Spanish highway sections have finished during this week:

Cantabrian Highway (A-8). Section: Lourenzá - Mondoñedo (3,5 km). (A-8)

Mediterranean Motorway (AP-7). Third lane on sections: Maçanet - Fornells (18,7 km), Vilademuls - Figueres South (17,3 km) y Figueres South - La Jonquera (22,3 km) and fourth lane on the section Fornells - Vilademuls (Girona By-pass) (19,7 km). (AP-7)

Santander Urban Ring Road. Section: La Marga - Albericia (1,5 km). (Santander)

Some pictures are available on a local newspaper website. (Pictures)

Regional Highway Navalmoral de la Mata - Portugal (EX-A1). Sections Coria - Moraleja East (10,3 km) and Moraleja East - Moraleja West (5,3 km). (EX-A1)

Cantabrian Motorway (AP-8). New Gerediaga Junction and third lane on the section Gerediaga - Iurreta (4,7 km). (AP-8)

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Old June 23rd, 2012, 08:39 PM   #2857
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Great news about AP-7. No more summer congestion!
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Old June 23rd, 2012, 08:52 PM   #2858
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Autovía Noroeste(A6)-Doncos-Lugo. por luis-lusco, en Flickr.
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Old June 24th, 2012, 05:03 PM   #2860
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Works on several Spanish highway sections have finished during this week:

Cantabrian Highway (A-8). Section: Lourenzá - Mondoñedo (3,5 km). (A-8)

Mediterranean Motorway (AP-7). Third lane on sections: Maçanet - Fornells (18,7 km), Vilademuls - Figueres South (17,3 km) y Figueres South - La Jonquera (22,3 km) and fourth lane on the section Fornells - Vilademuls (Girona By-pass) (19,7 km). (AP-7)

Santander Urban Ring Road. Section: La Marga - Albericia (1,5 km). (Santander)

Some pictures are available on a local newspaper website. (Pictures)

Regional Highway Navalmoral de la Mata - Portugal (EX-A1). Sections Coria - Moraleja East (10,3 km) and Moraleja East - Moraleja West (5,3 km). (EX-A1)

Cantabrian Motorway (AP-8). New Gerediaga Junction and third lane on the section Gerediaga - Iurreta (4,7 km). (AP-8)

Regards.
That's great news. Spain is currently full of u/c motorways where no actual works are taking place; for some of them there isn't even a finishing date. Recession halted some works that were already slowed down because of the own building companies' financial problems. In a 100 km radius from Barcelona, there is a motorway (A-2) where works are halted since 2007 (when groundworks were already at a very advanced stage, so there are traffic diversions and speed restrictions for more than 10 km), another one (B-40) whose Google Earth imagery shows almost finished but there is no opening date, and even another (A-2/AP-7 connection in Castellbisbal) where works were halted due to the municipalities' appeals when most of them (two large viaducts) were finished, and when they got to an agreement there was no money to build them.

A link to a newspaper article about this shame. It's in Spanish, but you can Google-translate it to get the picture. It only talks about infrastructure in Catalonia, but in the rest of the country the situation is similar. Particularly bad is the situation of A-7 in southern Spain (tunnels dug but walled in until constructors are paid from the Government) or A-8 in the north, with a lot of already-started-but-yet-to-be-finished stretches that cause large disruptions in traffic.

Btw miliar, it is is a honor for me to be talking with you here
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