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Old July 15th, 2007, 11:20 PM   #281
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More pics:

A-12: http://www.cfnavarra.es/obraspublica...afias/A-12.htm

A-21: http://www.cfnavarra.es/obraspublica...afias/A-21.htm
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Old July 16th, 2007, 01:42 AM   #282
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Old July 16th, 2007, 10:55 PM   #283
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Motorway porn!
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Old July 26th, 2007, 09:14 PM   #284
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I love this pic.

AP-7 near Llinars del Vallès (Barcelona province) and High Speed Line Madrid-Barcelona-France.

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Old July 26th, 2007, 09:48 PM   #285
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holy smoke, that's massive!

I saw the AVE under construction along the AP-2 2 years ago. When will it be finished?
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Old July 26th, 2007, 11:05 PM   #286
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holy smoke, that's massive!

I saw the AVE under construction along the AP-2 2 years ago. When will it be finished?
To Barcelona before the Spanish elections in March 2008. To the French border, probably in 2012.
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Old July 26th, 2007, 11:10 PM   #287
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wow!!! i've been passing a year ago under that AVE bridge over AP7 while it was still under construction and i was really curious what strange object is it gonna be?!?
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Old July 28th, 2007, 01:39 AM   #288
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A6
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Ponteareas, Pontevedra
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A7 Marbella, Málaga

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Ap9 close to Vigo
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Ronda Litoral, Barcelona
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Old July 28th, 2007, 06:23 AM   #289
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Why are some of the shoulders not solid lines? Does that mean you can use them as passing lanes?
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Where do you see that on the above pics?

But i know what you mean, you see it in France all the time. I think it's done so people know how much distance they should keep to the next car.
(it didn't work for me, i once got an accident on the French A10 near Bordeaux )
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Old July 28th, 2007, 11:37 AM   #291
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Why are some of the shoulders not solid lines? Does that mean you can use them as passing lanes?
Spain is starting to use that "French" system. so instead of solid line you have dashed line with large pieces. French motorways are known about it. but i don't know why all Spanich motorways are not in that style. for instance, AP7 is not.
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Old July 28th, 2007, 08:49 PM   #293
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Why are some of the shoulders not solid lines?
Probably it depends on how safe is to stop on the shoulder. For example, in some motorways there are solid lines in tunnels/bridges.

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Does that mean you can use them as passing lanes?
No, you can't pass on the right.

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Where is this? Madrid?
Yes, that photo was taken from "Faro de La Moncloa", a tower near "Palacio de La Moncloa", where the Spanish president lives.
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Old July 28th, 2007, 09:01 PM   #294
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Ok, I've just found the rules about that stuff:

http://carreteros.org/normativa/marc...ados/3_1_7.htm

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# b) en el borde exterior de la calzada de una autopista o autovía se utilizara la marca M-1.11, Siempre que no se den los supuestos 3, 4, 5, 7 u 8 del apartado c) siguiente.
# c) optativamente la línea longitudinal discontinua podrá utilizarse como alternativa de la línea continua, en vía cuyo arcén tenga una anchura menor de 1,5 metros, con las excepciones siguientes:

* 1. En el borde exterior de una curva -o serie de curvas- avisada por señal vertical.
* 2. Cuando la calzada cambie de anchura bruscamente.
* 3. Antes y después del borde discontinuo en una intersección o acceso, con objeto de precisar su situación.
* 4. Al aproximarse a y a lo largo de un puente o de un túnel en que se estreche la calzada.
* 5. Cuando sea especialmente peligroso salirse de la calzada aun a velocidad muy reducida.
* 6. A lo largo de un tramo donde la niebla sea frecuente.
* 7. En el borde exterior de un carril especial, de entrada o de salida.
* 8. En todo tramo en que se juzgue necesario destacar la importancia del borde de la calzada, advirtiendo así al conductor de que debe prestar a la circulación o a la vía una atención superior a la normal.
It says that the solid lines must be used instead dashed lines after and before exits/entrances, in bridges/tunnels, etc...

But some motorways such as AP-7 have no dashed lines, I think it's because old motorways were painted with solid lines.
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Old July 29th, 2007, 02:43 PM   #295
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Why are some of the shoulders not solid lines? Does that mean you can use them as passing lanes?
In Sweden it means that you can use the verge to make overtakes easier (for the one passing you). You can also use it the last distance before making a right hand turn on country roads so as to not slow down traffic behind you. Furthermore slow vechicles like tractors use them if they are available, also to avoid slowing down traffic and/or forcing risky overtakes.

If the verge has a solid line it means that it is not suitable for these purposes, altough mopeds are still allowed to use the verge in those circumstances as well as when you tow a car on a highway/freeway.
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Old August 4th, 2007, 09:31 PM   #296
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I'm sure that most of you don't know why the Spanish roads have such a strange, confusing numbers. I'll try to explain why.

According to the Plan General de Carreteras (1939), the peninsular Spain is divided into six parts. There are six main roads (radiales) which connect Madrid other cities.

This is the place where the six main roads begin. It's located in Puerta del Sol, Madrid.



The first number of the road depends on which of the six parts is the beginning of the road located in.

The second number depends on the distance to Madrid.

The third one depends on how the road is: Transversal (even numbers) or radial (odd numbers).



And that's all. It's quite easy.
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Old August 4th, 2007, 09:35 PM   #297
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About the Autopistas/Autovías: There are 9 main itineraries. The first 6 are the same as 6 main national roads. The other 3 go throught the coasts.

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Yeah, but what about ALL those damn prefixes? There must be dozens of them! Every province has it's own prefix, and sometimes cities too. Quite confusing when an motorway-grade road can af an A, AP, B, C, EX, BU, M, V, GC, TF (and the list goes on) prefix.
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Old August 5th, 2007, 05:17 PM   #299
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Yeah, but what about ALL those damn prefixes? There must be dozens of them! Every province has it's own prefix, and sometimes cities too. Quite confusing when an motorway-grade road can af an A, AP, B, C, EX, BU, M, V, GC, TF (and the list goes on) prefix.
That's true. The prefixes mean who is the owner of the motorway. As you know, Spain is divided into autonomous regions. The central administration (State), autonomous regions, city councils... can be the owners of a motorway. For instance, M-30 is owned by Madrid city council; C-32, AS-1, CM-42 are owned by Generalitat de Catalunya (Catalonia's autonomous government), Principado de Asturias (Asturias' autonomous government) and Junta de Comunidades de Castilla-La Mancha (Castilla-La Mancha's autonomous government) respectively; A-1 is owned by the State.

It's a mess

Edit: Generally, if the road number has one (X-X) or two digits (X-XX), it's a motorway.

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Old August 14th, 2007, 06:17 PM   #300
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Comparison between Madrid highways / Barcelona highways:


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