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Old January 3rd, 2013, 10:20 PM   #3401
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You're right. For this reason Catalan government want apply a vignette to trucks but Spanish government say they can't.

This new motorway is shadow-tolled operated by Cedinsa. The cost of a normal car is about €9 for the entire route and €12 for trucks. This means about €3bilion from now to 2040, when the concession will expire. The cost of construction was €700million.
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Old January 3rd, 2013, 10:25 PM   #3402
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Source: http://www.elperiodico.com/es/notici...-enero-2277768
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Old January 3rd, 2013, 10:30 PM   #3403
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Here you have the network operated by Cedinsa, that is: Transversal Axis (C-25), Llobregat Axis (C-16), Ter Axis (C-17) and Aro Axis (C-35 + C-65 + C-31)

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Old January 3rd, 2013, 10:32 PM   #3404
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Old January 3rd, 2013, 10:42 PM   #3405
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This is the new interchange between C-25 and A-2 near Girona, just here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=41...987793&zoom=15

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Old January 3rd, 2013, 10:46 PM   #3406
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Here underpassing AP-7 and new HSL from Barcelona to Figueres that will open next 8 January:



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Old January 3rd, 2013, 10:53 PM   #3407
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That is pretty much the entire route, isn't it?

Interestingly it's not that much shorter than the old route via AP-7 and A-2. Only about 15 kilometers. But it's entirely toll free.
It's the full route between Cervera and Girona. The first kilometers in Cervera and Manresa bypass were already up to freeway standard.

Inauguration is tomorrow, but it has been oficially "put in service" today.
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Old January 3rd, 2013, 11:04 PM   #3408
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Old January 4th, 2013, 10:54 AM   #3409
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Old January 4th, 2013, 10:47 PM   #3410
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Drove all the way from Cervera to Riudellots de la Selva today. Excellent motorway, 120 km/h speed limit all the way except for some of the tunnels (honestly didn't expect that). There are even wildlife overpasses that may be the first of their kind in Spain. In Rajadell both carriageways split to make way for an archaeological site in the median, quite curious. Recorded the whole thing, but files are corrupted and I'm now trying to extract them in some way. Hope to have the first part on YouTube tomorrow.
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Old January 5th, 2013, 12:42 PM   #3411
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Great, we'll be waiting!

I post some pics from the Catalan thread:

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Vista de l’Eix a les Oluges



Arc de les Fosses



Enllaç de Sant Hilari Sacalm



Ecoductes entre Muntanyola i Santa Maria d’Oló

http://premsa.gencat.cat/pres_fsvp/d...5bed5fb403.pdf
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Old January 5th, 2013, 01:50 PM   #3412
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i travelled on this place in september (using this state road, GI550)
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Old January 5th, 2013, 03:30 PM   #3413
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It doesn't seem to be a lot of cars using that new highway, it was a needed road?
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Old January 5th, 2013, 03:52 PM   #3414
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I think it was more a safety upgrade than a needed capacity upgrade. The old two-lane road was heavily used by trucks to avoid tolls on AP-7. Toll evasion is a major problem in northeastern Spain, many two-lane carreteras nacionales have higher volumes than the parallel tolled autopistas.

The traffic volumes on C-25 were mostly 6 000 - 15 000 vehicles per day.
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Old January 5th, 2013, 04:07 PM   #3415
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I heard yesterday that from 2000 to 2012, 144 people died in this road.
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Old January 5th, 2013, 04:16 PM   #3416
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it was nice via rápida, wide, no sharp curves, wide hard shoulders, third lanes...
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Old January 5th, 2013, 04:23 PM   #3417
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It doesn't seem to be a lot of cars using that new highway, it was a needed road?
Yes, but not so much because of cars, but because of lorries saturating it and making it dangerous. There´s been many deadly accidents in this road, mostly because of lorries.

Besides, the traffic from southeastern France to central, northern and western Spain and to Portugal has now an easy way to skip Barcelona and its toll stations, and the new motorway makes the trip shorter.

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Old January 5th, 2013, 05:32 PM   #3418
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AP-8 Bilbao SuperSur

I have some questions about the AP-8 Bilbao SuperSur.

Who operates it? It is a toll road.

Are they demolishing the old road near central Bilbao? There are works going on there. At the same time they appear to be building a new feeder from central Bilbao to the western suburbs.

Are there traffic volumes known of the new SuperSur?
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Old January 5th, 2013, 07:39 PM   #3419
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AFAIK they will replace part of the old road with a new tunnel, and remove the Cruces interchange (Which has a ton of left exits and merges) and build a new access further West. But those aren't the point of the works, they are for put a commuter railway underground.

As for Supersur, it is managed by Interbiak, a public society. Tolls on the Supersur are really really low considering the terrain through it runs, even to the point of being toll free during nights. AADT is far below expected, 14000 vehicles/day, but I believe is because the Eastern extension to AP-68 is not built yet. Further extensions East to Amorebieta and West to Muskiz are also planned.
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Old January 5th, 2013, 08:22 PM   #3420
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Thanks, it's indeed Interbiak. The tolls are only € 1,13 for the entire route that exists as of today (which is mostly in tunnels). That's low indeed.
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