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Old September 11th, 2013, 12:22 PM   #3881
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and what about the bridge in Ayamonte, boundary with Portugal?
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Old September 11th, 2013, 02:20 PM   #3882
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Guadiana Bridge's length is "only" 666 m, according to Wikipedia. It is a long bridge, but it is not in the top three of the longest bridges in Spain.
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Old September 12th, 2013, 12:27 AM   #3883
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OK. thanks. I knew it was large but doesn't know the length.

In my region I think that one in the south of Paniza (near one km) is the longest and there are five ones in the south of Teruel with about 800m the longest, but obviously not so long as them
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Old September 13th, 2013, 01:54 PM   #3884
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A-15 motorway (toll free) in Gipuzkoa, Basque Country was finished in March 2013. Now international traffic to France has to take this motorway. Overall, majority of traffic is going now by the old N-1. (70's expressway). A-15 is better motorway.











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Old September 13th, 2013, 02:00 PM   #3885
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This is the Second Bypass of San Sebastian-Donostia in Basque Country opened in 2010. (Ap-1- Ap-8) It is now take the majority of international traffic. The bypass was a success in taking the international traffic, specially the trucks.











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Old September 13th, 2013, 02:18 PM   #3886
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But if you want do go towards Vitória and Burgos by de A-1 (old N-1) you must not follow the signs, otherwise you will drive by the new AP-1. I think this is not OK. There should be clear sign A-1 Vitória / AP-1 - AP-8 Vitória (peaje).
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Old September 13th, 2013, 04:47 PM   #3887
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Yes, you have all reason. Authorities put signals bad I think, they want to attract drivers to toll motorways. But if you have a map you can see that there is a non-toll alternative. The problem is if you don't know the roads, you can drive finally by toll motorway and this is bad.
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Old September 13th, 2013, 04:50 PM   #3888
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Old September 14th, 2013, 01:51 PM   #3889
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Highest road in Spain is not far from there.

A video of motorways CV-10 and A-7 in Castelló province. CV-10 is a part of A-7 that was built by Valencian regional government and is scheduled to be renamed A-7 in the future and transferred to Spanish central government. However, the date this will be done is unknown as it relies on its extension further north.



There's a similar case in N-340, which will be transferred to Valencian regional government once Vinaròs bypass is complete.
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Old September 14th, 2013, 08:03 PM   #3890
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Highest road in Spain is not far from there.
And also highest of Europe: http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puertos...ltos_del_mundo

It is possible to arrive to 2500m but the road (which goes inside a National Park where normal cars can't enter) arrives to 3367m. If you go by bicicle or horse, authorities let you to arrive to the final
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Old September 14th, 2013, 09:06 PM   #3891
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There's an astronomical observatory up the mountain. One of my former co-workers used to go there quite often.
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Old September 15th, 2013, 04:28 PM   #3892
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That at least was a really scary road to drive in 2005, with drops of hundreds of meters without any barriers.
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Old September 15th, 2013, 05:13 PM   #3893
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Yes, you have all reason. Authorities put signals bad I think, they want to attract drivers to toll motorways. But if you have a map you can see that there is a non-toll alternative. The problem is if you don't know the roads, you can drive finally by toll motorway and this is bad.
Not only in Spain, in slovania they do this as well.
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Old September 15th, 2013, 08:19 PM   #3894
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Not only in Spain, in slovania they do this as well.
They do this in the UK too. A few years ago I was driving up the A38 north of Birmingham, part of which runs parallel to the M6 Toll motorway. Where it met the M6 Toll, the sign directed me onto the M6 Toll to rejoin the A38 further up, while the A38 was signposted simply "Sutton Coldfield (A453)". There cannot be much of a time saving by taking the motorway, even though it cuts out two roundabouts. I wonder if they did so as part of a "deal" with the motorway operator.
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Old September 15th, 2013, 08:31 PM   #3895
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Murcia: Arco Norte, Arco Noroeste

Two new autopistas are planned to bypass Murcia.

Arco Noroeste
The aim of this motorway is to reduce traffic on A-30 in Murcia and provide a bypass for through and regional traffic. The cost is € 178 million (€ 8.2 million per kilometer).



Arco Norte
No, it's not Arco Norte in Mexico, but in Spain. This motorway should reduce traffic on A-7 around Murcia and will form an outer beltway of Murcia (especially if RM-1 will finally be extended north). The cost is € 160 million (€ 9.3 million per kilometer).
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Old September 15th, 2013, 08:38 PM   #3896
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Is there any actual need for those new motorways around Murcia?

The network in Murcia seems to be pretty dense already.
I may be mistaken but I think that A7 around Murcia already has three lanes per direction.
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Old September 15th, 2013, 08:44 PM   #3897
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Maybe these particular project are worthwhile (I don't know local conditions), but in general I question the need to build even more new motorways in Spain at this time. In my opinion it's already overbuilt...
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Old September 15th, 2013, 10:08 PM   #3898
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Murcia should maybe open their (already built) new airport first and see how that goes.

Murcia also has the Cartagena-Vega section of the AP-7, that is bankrupt with almost no traffic.
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Old September 16th, 2013, 01:15 AM   #3899
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Is there any actual need for those new motorways around Murcia?

The network in Murcia seems to be pretty dense already.
I may be mistaken but I think that A7 around Murcia already has three lanes per direction.
YES, Murcia need new bypasses from mid 90's, but is well know that because Murcia is not Madrid or Cataluña the government just simply ignore untill, like this case, until the traffic jams are from 08.00 to 21.00
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YES, Murcia need new bypasses from mid 90's, but is well know that because Murcia is not Madrid or Cataluña the government just simply ignore untill, like this case, until the traffic jams are from 08.00 to 21.00
Why did they build the AP7 and RM1 and RM3 so.? They are full standard Autovias but they don't go anywhere with people and traffic. The RM1 only goes to an airport that Murcia want to close because the Province built a new airport. Murcia paid for the RM1 and RM3 and for the new Airport ....themselves.

Some idiot in a dead Caja probably paid for the AP7

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