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Old November 29th, 2013, 08:45 PM   #4101
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11.5 new km of the A-15 from Sauquillo del Campo to Almazán (Sur) have been opened today.



Magenta, a new colour for the Spanish rainbow of road numbers! It's also funny how the road number is longer than the town's name.

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http://sorianoticias.com/noticia/adi...azan-sauquillo

http://www.fomento.gob.es/MFOM/LANG_.../131129-07.htm
Are these road numbers longer or shorter than Spanish social security numbers?
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Old November 29th, 2013, 09:03 PM   #4102
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Lol!

Spanish ID card number (the most used and same one in the passport) has eight numbers and one letter.
Really...not far!
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Old November 29th, 2013, 09:29 PM   #4103
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Are these road numbers longer or shorter than Spanish social security numbers?
Much shorter.



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Old November 29th, 2013, 10:02 PM   #4104
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Old November 29th, 2013, 11:24 PM   #4105
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Are these road numbers longer or shorter than Spanish social security numbers?
Of course they are shorter. But I regularly drive on HU-V-5231 .

Anyway, our current numbering system is a real mess. I want to bring back the old system C roads.
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Old November 29th, 2013, 11:32 PM   #4106
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Apart of the numbering system itself, there was a former "rule" on the autovías and autopistas signage which states that on autovías and autovías information panels only road numbers of the same class (it means, other autovías and autopistas) should be shown, and not any lower class road such as national or county roads. In those cases, only town names should be shown.
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Old November 29th, 2013, 11:33 PM   #4107
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Wanna more?

Fuerteventura island

Four main rodas
FV-1 from the capital to the northern side of the island
FV-2 from the capital to the southern side of the island
FV-3 capital half-orbital road
FV-4 little branch to a main town in the island

All in red, except two little streches 2x2 where they are in blue (even if top speed is 90 I think)

Five different roads from the capital or the eastern coast (most of population) to inner or western coast: FV-10, FV-20, FV-30, FV-50 and FV-56

All in green

A lot of local roads to go from village to village or so... all of them in yellow and three digits.

FV-XXX

https://maps.google.es/?ll=28.268706...38173&t=h&z=12

What the ****!!!!... an island with three digit roads and (except main ones) impossible to remember the number of their roads.



Wanna more. Just go north to the island of Lanzarote

The SAME case

LZ-1 from capital to north
LZ-2 to south
LZ-3 half-orbital

several green LZ-XX to inner island

A lot of yellow LZ-XXX inside the island


(furthermore according to google maps once I saw Corralejo - Playa Blanca ferry service as "driving in the FV-1, not in the LZ-2 but FV-1)
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Old November 30th, 2013, 12:45 AM   #4108
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Bitch please

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Old November 30th, 2013, 01:03 AM   #4109
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I personally think this one's better:

https://maps.google.es/?ll=41.801167...255.91,,1,6.55
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Old November 30th, 2013, 01:08 AM   #4110
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Wow!!!!!!!

Let me ask in a concrete thread about it...
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Old November 30th, 2013, 01:09 AM   #4111
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Wow!!!!!!!

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Old November 30th, 2013, 12:11 PM   #4112
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Bitch please
It's RM-313 now.

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I personally think this one's better:

https://maps.google.es/?ll=41.801167...255.91,,1,6.55
Nice find! I wasn't aware of A14R2
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Old November 30th, 2013, 01:29 PM   #4113
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Apart of the numbering system itself, there was a former "rule" on the autovías and autopistas signage which states that on autovías and autovías information panels only road numbers of the same class (it means, other autovías and autopistas) should be shown, and not any lower class road such as national or county roads. In those cases, only town names should be shown.
Apart of autovías and autovías, also on autopistas, I suppose
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Old November 30th, 2013, 03:00 PM   #4114
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Here you have more strange examples of numbering in Spanish roads:

"National" roads E-22, E-23 and E-25 ("E" for "Enlace") connecting A-2 and N-II in Lleida:
http://goo.gl/maps/rYDO7
http://goo.gl/maps/bbMRk
http://goo.gl/maps/dZhh0 (this is E-25 but I could not find a sign)

National road N-1411 connecting N-260 and C-16 near Andorra (National road numbers should have only 3 digits)
http://goo.gl/maps/JDPWA

Autovía A-5/1, spur of M-40 that connects A-5 and M-40:
http://goo.gl/maps/snFuV
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Old November 30th, 2013, 03:08 PM   #4115
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Apart of autovías and autovías, also on autopistas, I suppose
Yes, as well on autopistas.
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Old November 30th, 2013, 03:26 PM   #4116
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11.5 new km of the A-15 from Sauquillo del Campo to Almazán (Sur) have been opened today.



Magenta, a new colour for the Spanish rainbow of road numbers! It's also funny how the road number is longer than the town's name.

Sources:

http://sorianoticias.com/noticia/adi...azan-sauquillo

http://www.fomento.gob.es/MFOM/LANG_.../131129-07.htm
Centenera del Campo has 11 (eleven ) inhabitants, and Coscurita 112

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Old November 30th, 2013, 03:30 PM   #4117
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Here you have more strange examples of numbering in Spanish roads:

"National" roads E-22, E-23 and E-25 ("E" for "Enlace") connecting A-2 and N-II in Lleida:
http://goo.gl/maps/rYDO7
http://goo.gl/maps/bbMRk
http://goo.gl/maps/dZhh0 (this is E-25 but I could not find a sign)
Euro roads? No, link roads! There is also E-10 and E-20 in Ibiza/Eivissa.

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National road N-1411 connecting N-260 and C-16 near Andorra (National road numbers should have only 3 digits)
http://goo.gl/maps/JDPWA
This was formerly C-1411. Regional roads (C-xxx) could have had an extra digit if every 3 digit number was already taken, always following the rule of odd=radial, even=transversal. The most extreme case was C-3331 in Malaga and Cadiz provinces.

By the way, if they wanted to put a new N-road between A-6 and A-1, starting between 200 and 300 km away from Madrid and radiating up to the coast, since N-621, N-623, N-625, N-627 and N-629 all exist it would be numbered N-6211.

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Autovía A-5/1, spur of M-40 that connects A-5 and M-40:
http://goo.gl/maps/snFuV
How about M-22? Signed as a motorway, yet is a regular road! http://goo.gl/maps/7chSK

And to top it out: Both MA-20 and Ma-20 exist! And how I can forget A-231 and, erm, A-231 .

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Centenera del Campo has 11 (eleven ) inhabitants, and Coscurita 112
Luckily they don't sign Illán de Vacas off E90. It has a couple, literally, inhabitants.
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Old November 30th, 2013, 03:31 PM   #4118
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Well, they must be served by it, the old N-111 was entirely absorbed into A-15.
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Old November 30th, 2013, 03:38 PM   #4119
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Well, they must be served by it, the old N-111 was entirely absorbed into A-15.
Not really absorbed. Still you can drive on the N-111 which runs parallel to the new motorway.
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Old November 30th, 2013, 07:38 PM   #4120
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I personally think this one's better:

https://maps.google.es/?ll=41.801167...255.91,,1,6.55

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Here you have more strange examples of numbering in Spanish roads:

[...]

Those are the weirdest things I've seen. I mean, I could expect anything from the regional/local governments, but I'm very surprised about the fact that it was Fomento that did it this time.


About the XX-X-1234 numbers, I think that they date back to the time when the provincial governments classified all the existing roads they managed. However, the numbers were never supposed to be used in road signs. I mean that they were just "codes" for the road managers to use, never for drivers. In fact, still today you can find several signs in rural areas in which only the towns' names are signed.

IMO Spain's numbering system should be something akin the American system:
  • Interstates = A- and AP-
  • US Routes = National Roads (N-)
  • Then, from XX-1 to XX-999 all the rest of the roads. There's no need to use more than 3 digits. XX would be the province code.

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