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Old April 24th, 2014, 09:20 PM   #4321
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It's L'Hospitalet not L'Hospital . BOE link is wrong too.

I wonder if they are planning some kind of connection with the new bridge over the Llobregat river that is U/C west of El Prat. There's already a four-lane road where they are planning to build the motorway so I also wonder to what exent are they going to use the existing road and the old riverbed.

This is great news anyway, because Port of Barcelona has seen an enormous growth throughout the last years, especially with the construction of a new huge cargo terminal, but the surrounding infrastructure has not been upgraded. The news article also says that the promised rail link will also be built, using the right-of-way of an existing narrow-gauge railway.
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Old April 24th, 2014, 09:31 PM   #4322
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Thanks, that's the problem of translating some stuff at 5h in the morning...

Hmmm, I have no idea, as well as I have no idea as this new road will help to modify the A-2/C-245 interchange as the new link between the C-32 and the A-2 is going to be build.

This area gonna change a lot with the new roads.

For sure the port needs better and larger access, but by now the railway link is not that saturated. Anyway, better connection are always welcome.
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Old April 24th, 2014, 09:58 PM   #4323
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The road looks unrelated to the U/C link road between C-32 and A-2. Widening of A-2 starts just at C-245 interchange.
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Old April 25th, 2014, 12:25 AM   #4324
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The road looks unrelated to the U/C link road between C-32 and A-2. Widening of A-2 starts just at C-245 interchange.
Yes, I know, but what is not clear for me is the current layout of the C-245 interchange, which doesn't show the best design for the circulation from the C-32 towards the A-2 Lleida. A modification of that interchange would be really useful.
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Old April 25th, 2014, 08:32 PM   #4325
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5-kilometer long Vilanova de la Barca bypass opened to traffic today in Lleida province. It's part of the future Lleida-Balaguer motorway (C-13).

(see press release for picture, it's too big to fit in the forum).

Cost was 49M€.
Here's a couple vids of the new road:



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Old April 26th, 2014, 06:57 PM   #4326
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Nice videos!

Strange type of road marks they've used in the center: 4,5-8 meters instead of 6-11 meters for Autovías and Autopistas.
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Old April 27th, 2014, 04:27 AM   #4327
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I am not sure if the Catalan autonomous government uses a particular standard for road markings for its own network, as it uses as well its own signage standard with some little variations over the general Spanish model. Anyway, I am not able measure the actual size of the road marks... apparently for me it is not as different as other Spanish roads. Maybe, I am not sure though, lines are slightly narrower: the former rule had 10 cm wide lines, the current one uses 15 cm wide lines for discontinuous lines on autovías and autopistas.

Maybe any forumer with a deeper knowledge of roads in Catalonia could say something...
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Old April 27th, 2014, 03:16 PM   #4328
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Looking at other countries, personally I prefer the rainbow Spain has, since I can know the (theoretical) importance of a road from the color it has. But this doesn't explain why I have clinched A-1304 over nearby parallel A-220 (An "orange" road, more important than a "green" road the former is).
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Old April 27th, 2014, 03:24 PM   #4329
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I don't understand what you mean. You prefer the diversity of colors used by Spanish road numbers but you find it useless and not intuitive at all?
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Old April 27th, 2014, 03:29 PM   #4330
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Actually I find it useful. There were other reasons to clinch a lesser important route like I did.
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Old April 27th, 2014, 03:31 PM   #4331
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Ah, ok... I understand now.


What I don't like is the diversity produced by different criteria used depending on the autonomous government. If there was just a common way for the whole territory, it would be much better.
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Old April 28th, 2014, 12:04 AM   #4332
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CNGL says that, theoretically, if you know which category each colour stands for, you can guess its importance and characteristics. The order in Aragon, from the best to the worst, is blue > red > orange > green > yellow.
But this is the theory. Sometimes a yellow road is better than a red one. Think about some local roads (near Luceni, for example) which are better than N-260 between Campo and Seira.
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Old April 28th, 2014, 12:17 AM   #4333
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Most of the problem is with the colors of local roads. Depending on the province or region it can be yellow (the traditional one), or light blue, or grey, or brown, or purple... I don't know if I am missing any color...

There is some kind of agreement in the upper levels, as you say (except in Catalonia where orange is not used), that's right.
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Old April 28th, 2014, 01:20 AM   #4334
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Nevertheless... I guess that for any driver it could be easy to remember colours to know if he is going to take an upper or downer road but some road numbers are impossible to join to any strech, area or so...
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Old April 28th, 2014, 01:26 AM   #4335
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After all, most of the traffic uses blue, red and orange roads... that's pretty simple. The lower the level is, the less important the number of road is for drivers.
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Old May 2nd, 2014, 11:58 PM   #4336
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Maybe names work better than colours. The simpler, the better. Some examples:
- A-23: blue.
- N-234: red.
- A-132: orange.
- A-1205: green.
- A-2605: yellow.
But the problem is the same again.
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Old May 3rd, 2014, 12:52 AM   #4337
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By the way, a "red" (national) road can be anything from this to this

Yup, I have switched to the new Google Maps
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Old May 3rd, 2014, 01:01 AM   #4338
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By the way, a "red" (national) road can be anything from this to this

Yup, I have switched to the new Google Maps
Well, that's true as well. Even there are some "local roads" far better than a national road.

As well, gonna recognize the N-260 is a pretty particular national road...
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Old May 3rd, 2014, 05:56 AM   #4339
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Well, that's true as well. Even there are some "local roads" far better than a national road.

As well, gonna recognize the N-260 is a pretty particular national road...
Like this http://goo.gl/maps/l7Nmd XD
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Old May 3rd, 2014, 03:40 PM   #4340
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Driving road N-II from Girona (future AP-7 junction) to La Jonquera near the French border. This road used to be a truck inferno, but a truck ban came in force in 2013 throughout Girona province, forcing trucks into AP-7, so the road is much quieter now.



By the end of the year, the new AP-7 junction will be ready and thus Girona will be fully bypassed toll-free (you'll get the ticket at Girona S and pay no toll if you exit at the new junction). A-2 is already signed in AP-7 around Girona.
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