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Old May 3rd, 2014, 03:43 PM   #4341
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What is the financial situation of AP-41 concessionaire?
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Old May 3rd, 2014, 04:23 PM   #4342
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By the end of the year, the new AP-7 junction will be ready and thus Girona will be fully bypassed toll-free (you'll get the ticket at Girona S and pay no toll if you exit at the new junction). A-2 is already signed in AP-7 around Girona.
Technically in that section A-2 should be AP-2 .
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Old May 3rd, 2014, 04:58 PM   #4343
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Well, technically AP-7 Girona bypass is toll-free...
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Old May 3rd, 2014, 11:16 PM   #4344
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I also checked the U/C A-2 section (Sils-Caldes de Malavella). Works have advanced a lot during this year. Traffic is already driving on one of the carriageways of the motorway and an opening date by the end of the year is feasible. However, there's no news about the most necessary stretch (Tordera-Maçanet de la Selva and Maçanet-Sils), which would link C-32 with A-2, and thus with AP-7, giving a continuity to the coastal corridor. It's a short stretch which currently goes through Tordera and has many roundabouts. Plus, traffic is quite high, especially in summer.

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Technically in that section A-2 should be AP-2 .
No. A-2 is only posted in the toll-free section. It's free, but you have to go through toll gates.
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Old May 3rd, 2014, 11:30 PM   #4345
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No. A-2 is only posted in the toll-free section. It's free, but you have to go through toll gates.
https://www.google.es/maps/@41.99188...7EcKiWzWzQ!2e0
However I think in this sign on the exit 6B the peaje/toll circle shouldn't be on it. This section is as well supposedly toll-free, isn't it? Or you don't need to pay only if you use Girona S and Girona N exits?
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Old May 4th, 2014, 12:05 AM   #4346
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https://www.google.es/maps/@41.99188...7EcKiWzWzQ!2e0
However I think in this sign on the exit 6B the peaje/toll circle shouldn't be on it. This section is as well supposedly toll-free, isn't it? Or you don't need to pay only if you use Girona S and Girona N exits?
You have to pay a toll to reach all destinations in the sign, so it is well-placed.
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Old May 4th, 2014, 12:07 AM   #4347
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In Portugal, traffic on tolled roads plummet after the 2008-2010 crisis.

Did many Spanish drivers ditch autopistas in favor of autovías?
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Old May 4th, 2014, 12:10 AM   #4348
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You have to pay a toll to reach all destinations in the sign, so it is well-placed.
Not if you get out of the motorway in Girona S or Girona N and you drive on the A-2/N-II. It doesn't make lot of sense...
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Old May 4th, 2014, 12:21 AM   #4349
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In Portugal, traffic on tolled roads plummet after the 2008-2010 crisis.

Did many Spanish drivers ditch autopistas in favor of autovías?
The traffic of toll roads has fallen a 33% since 2006. But I am not sure how much the traffic has fallen in the whole network for comparing proportionally the reduction in tolled roads.
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Old May 4th, 2014, 05:48 AM   #4350
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OK. I've been checking out the last comparative available information.

For the whole Spanish network in the period 2007-2012 there has been a reduction of a 13% aproximately in the overall traffic considering the vehicles-km figures.

Proportionally, in 2013 the reduction of traffic in tolled roads was a 33%.

As well, the heavy traffic has been reduced from the 13,4% of the total in 2007 to 10,7% in 2012.

It is important to consider as well that the tolled network without an freeway as alternative is concentrated mostly in some particular areas an corridors, so the effect is not the same than in Portugal. As well, the reduction of traffic is not uniform. For example in the last year there were sections in the AP-7 (Montmeló-La Jonquera, Alicante-Cartagena),the AP-51 and the AP-53 which hadn't lost traffic during the last year.

Source: Serie histórica 2000-2012, Ministerio de Fomento
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Old May 4th, 2014, 11:44 PM   #4351
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Going back to national, local roads, colours... Please, watch this and compare it to CNGL's second photo.
http://goo.gl/maps/qA3p5
I guess it's not even a yellow road!
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Old May 5th, 2014, 01:04 PM   #4352
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Will they build the final sector of A15 linking it with A2 here?

After all the budget cuts and then reinstatement of projects, what is the actual situation of A23 project Jaca - Yesa?
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Old May 5th, 2014, 01:31 PM   #4353
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Will they build the final sector of A15 linking it with A2 here?

After all the budget cuts and then reinstatement of projects, what is the actual situation of A23 project Jaca - Yesa?
Yes, the A-15 and A-2 link is under construction. It will modify the whole interchange in Medinaceli, with a new overpass and apparently the upgrade will be extended further to the South in the A-2, I mean, it will occupy a larger area than the current interchange from the information provided by various Spanish forumers. However, nobody is sure if it will be finished by the end of 2014 or more probably it will be finished in 2015.

The Jaca-Yesa motorway is not the A-23, but the A-21 and it belongs to the longer autovía Pamplona-Jaca. The whole section within Navarre is finished (it is, Noaín-Tiermas). Then, already in Aragon, from the interchange with the road A-1601 to the limit between the provinces of Huesca and Saragossa.

About the rest of sections:
Tiermas-Sigüés, limit Huesca/Saragossa-Puente la Reina de Jaca, and Northern bypass of Jaca: have they projects finished by not bidded yet (I think, they weren't before).

Sigüés - A-1601: on hold but there is a small amount of money reserved in 2014 for this section...

Puente la Reina de Jaca-Santa Cilia: on hold, and apparently it won't be restarted until 2017.

Santa Cilia-Jaca: apparently they are still working but really slowly...

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Old May 5th, 2014, 08:21 PM   #4354
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Thanks. The overview should be correct:

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A15: Radona – Medinaceli (A2) 12 12.1km (? to 2014) – ? – map
A21: Puente la Reina de Jaca – Santa Cilia 12 7.2km (? to > 2017) – ? – map
A21: Sigües – A-1601 12 2.5km (? to ?) – ? – map
A21: Santa Cilia – Jaca-West 12 9.0km (? to suspended) – ? – map
Any idea when the works have been started there for the first time?
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Old May 6th, 2014, 01:28 AM   #4355
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Will they build the final sector of A15 linking it with A2 here?

They will, they will...

(more other forumers have asked about it and no answer yet...)
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Old May 6th, 2014, 01:40 AM   #4356
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After all the budget cuts and then reinstatement of projects, what is the actual situation of A23 project Jaca - Yesa?
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Thanks. The overview should be correct:

Any idea when the works have been started there for the first time?


A-21 Jaca-Yesa is haulted. Information in google maps is correct

About A-23, I drove there on St. George day (April 23rd) and I noticed that northern Nueno they are keeping on works. Several machines appeared in the sides.

https://www.google.es/maps/place/221...8dd308021151ac
You can consider this google maps information as correct too.

There will be two carriageways. Direction Jaca will be old one refurbished and direction Huesca will be a new one with two bridges and a 450m tunnel.

Nowadays there is a 1x1 in the new platform (direction Huesca) whilst on works on the other side.

Same situation with the new 1,5 km tunnel (new one built and 1x1 inside, old one under refurbishement).

And near Sabiñanigo there is a little stretch quite advanced but seems to be haulted.


About the year the works began... let me ask about it.

I remember in July 2010 when the general civil works haulting, several pictures on that area.
In March 2011 one kilometre was opened in Nueno and in spring 2012, Sabiñanigo-Jaca if I'm not wrong.



Furthermore I've found this interesting post

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...postcount=6858


It is the situation from the second tunnel through north (right side of the picture).

Be awared that current road will be a 2 lanes to Huesca refurbished (you can compare current platform and proposed one) and 2 lanes to Jaca will have a new tunnel under the mountain.
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Old May 7th, 2014, 10:48 PM   #4357
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BU-30 Burgos

Fomento has restarted the works on BU-30, the northern ring road of Burgos. The works were 34% done, so they need another 2 years or so (Fomento press releases don't specify planned completion dates anymore).

http://www.fomento.gob.es/MFOM/LANG_.../140506-02.htm
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Old May 7th, 2014, 10:58 PM   #4358
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La autovía estará formada por dos calzadas de 7,0m de anchura, con dos carriles de 3,5m por sentido, arcenes exteriores de 2,50m e interiores de 1,50m, separadas por una mediana de 4,0m.
Sounds like an expressway, isn't it? When have the (first) works been started?
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Sounds like a 26 meter cross-section. The outside shoulders are a bit narrow, but otherwise it's a normal motorway. It will likely have a 120 km/h speed limit.
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Old May 7th, 2014, 11:06 PM   #4360
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Sounds like an expressway, isn't it? When have the (first) works been started?
It will be an autovía, probably designed for 120 km/h (technically, the project is named as AV-120 if it is an autovía for 120 km/h, AV-100 for 100 km/h or AV-80 for 80 km/h). For autopistas there are the same design speeds, but instead of AV- it is used AP-. However, technically they have the same characteristics.
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