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Old May 12th, 2014, 10:38 PM   #4381
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Old May 12th, 2014, 10:43 PM   #4382
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I've added start dates to all sections. Most of them where already U/C by 2009, maybe earlier. I've also added accents and tildes where needed.

A23: Alto de Monrepós – Arguis 2 3.2km (2012 to 2014) – ? – map
A23: Congosto de Isuela – Nueno 2 4.4km (2012 to 2014) – ? – map

A23: Sabiñánigo-East – Sabiñánigo-South 12 2.6km (2009 to suspended) – ? – map
A23: Lanave – Caldearenas 2 14.4km (2009 to suspended) – ? – map
A23: Caldearenas – Alto de Monrepós 12 4.1km (2009 to suspended) – ? – map
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Old May 12th, 2014, 11:13 PM   #4383
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I've added start dates to all sections. Most of them where already U/C by 2009, maybe earlier. I've also added accents and tildes where needed.
Thanks. Maybe earlier, so I'd like to modify it to "<2009". Which sections were already < 2009 u/c? Well, if you know all this data... I would appreciate if you could add the missing data to all Spanish projects: > click < .
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Old May 13th, 2014, 10:49 AM   #4384
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I've added start dates to all sections. Most of them where already U/C by 2009, maybe earlier. I've also added accents and tildes where needed.

A23: Alto de Monrepós – Arguis 2 3.2km (2012 to 2014) – ? – map
A23: Congosto de Isuela – Nueno 2 4.4km (2012 to 2014) – ? – map

A23: Sabiñánigo-East – Sabiñánigo-South 12 2.6km (2009 to suspended) – ? – map
A23: Lanave – Caldearenas 2 14.4km (2009 to suspended) – ? – map
A23: Caldearenas – Alto de Monrepós 12 4.1km (2009 to suspended) – ? – map
Just let me point a detail...

Nueno-Congosto had one km. opened in early 2011. Motorway ended one km. before Nueno exit and they built second bridge over the river, extending A-23 until there. Not many... but one kilometre more.





@MichiH
Just a detail... A-23 is a motorway starting in Sagunto (km.0) and to be end in the Somport tunnel (but is is planned only until Jaca and we do not expect to have final stretch in a looooong time)

N-240 is a road starting in Tarragona and ending in San Sebastian. Providing all on service, on works and on project motorways, its meaning is:

A-27 Tarragona-Montblanc, AP-2 Montblanc-Lleida South, Ll-11, Lleida-South-Lleida-east, A-2 Lleida east - Lleida north
A-22 Lleida-Huesca, A-23 Huesca-Jaca, A-21 Jaca-Pamplona, A-15, Pamplona west, AP-15 Pamplona-Irurzun. A-15 Irurzun-Andoaín, A-1 Andoaín-San Sebastián.

Yeah... to be crazy!!!!
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Old May 13th, 2014, 12:53 PM   #4385
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hi all,

in August I want to avoid the AP-7 and want to use the N 420 and N 211 between Teruel and Fraga/Lleida. What is the current condition of these roads. Are they smooth to use?`I think they are mostly 1+1? I suppose that the truck-traffic (will use on a Saturday) isn't that high or am I wrong?
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Old May 13th, 2014, 03:20 PM   #4386
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Hi.

Between Mequinenza and Caspe there are several sites locked on 70 and close to Montalban and Utrillas closed to 40 but just a few kilometres. The rest of the road is quite good and the one with less traffic in Spain. Just have a look on street view with some random spots.
From Utrillas to Villalba Baja you will be able to drive 100 surely (upper too but not allowed...).

I barely remember trucks on the road.
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Old May 13th, 2014, 03:23 PM   #4387
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N-420 between Teruel and Montalbán is OK as far I remember. Low traffic in general, including trucks.

N-211 between Montalbán, Alcañiz and Fraga is as well ok. However, I remember between Caspe and Mequinenza (for getting down to the Ebro river valley) you have some bendy sections, but not dangerous at all. Traffic as well low in general.

As well, consider a shortcut around Montalbán. Instead of crossing Utrillas in the N-420 and then Montalbán in the N-211 with the bendy sections in the exists of both towns (as Montalbán is at the beginning of a deep valley comparing with the surrounding mountains), you can take the regional road A-2402 from Escucha to Palomar de los Arroyos and Castel de Cabra, where you can merge again the N-211 (route).

Anyway, there are several Aragonese forumers who use to post in this thread who can give you probably more recent information.

P.S.: Alserrod was one of the forumers I was thinking about... Thanks man.
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Old May 13th, 2014, 03:32 PM   #4388
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@MichiH:

Consider to include two more motorways in your list:

B-21 Second access to Barcelona Port (more on this post)

AC-15 Access to A Coruña Outer Port.
The last information published about the AC-15 has been the press released the beginning of works for the interchange AC-15 X AG-55 (location). However, I gonna ask in the Spanish forum about the status of the remaining AC-15.
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Old May 14th, 2014, 12:15 AM   #4389
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thank you very much. very useful for me!
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Old May 17th, 2014, 05:13 PM   #4390
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Why does Sabiñánigo appear as suspended? There were people working this morning near the roundabout to N-260.

I don't have any idea of when works will be finished, but there they're not halted.
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Old May 18th, 2014, 01:53 PM   #4391
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Consider to include two more motorways in your list:

B-21 Second access to Barcelona Port (more on this post)
Thanks . Will be added when the works will be started in September.

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AC-15 Access to A Coruña Outer Port.
The last information published about the AC-15 has been the press released the beginning of works for the interchange AC-15 X AG-55 (location). However,
I gonna ask in the Spanish forum about the status of the remaining AC-15.
Any information meanwhile?
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Old May 18th, 2014, 01:55 PM   #4392
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AC-15 started construction in late 2010 or 2011.

This image is dated 29 March 2012.
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Old May 20th, 2014, 02:49 PM   #4393
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Reactivation of another important project in Northwestern Spain. The enlargement of the motorway AP-9 (Atlantic Motorway, A Coruña/Ferrol - Tui) capacity was cancelled because of the cuts, but now the projects have been reaproved.

The improvement affects two sections: Vigo-Morrazo (between the Cangas and Rande exists, the Northern access to Vigo city centre, including the enlargement of the current 2x2 Rande Bridge, currently pretty saturated), Santiago de Compostela bypass and Sigüeiro exit.

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Location of the enlargement project for the Santiago bypass on the AP-9.
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Old May 20th, 2014, 05:59 PM   #4394
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We're seeing a lot of projects being restarted this year. This is very good news because between 2010 and 2013 everything was pretty much in a standstill. 2014-2020 will see a lot of new motorway openings in Spain.
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Old May 21st, 2014, 10:27 PM   #4395
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Again projects of by-passes in the middle of nowhere (like Alicante), for a city like Santiago that has like 60 000 inhabitants or so... Again an expensible by-pass that nobody needs that will have AADT 3000...
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Again projects of by-passes in the middle of nowhere (like Alicante), for a city like Santiago that has like 60 000 inhabitants or so... Again an expensible by-pass that nobody needs that will have AADT 3000...
This is not a new by-pass of Santiago, but the enlargement of the one that already exists (AP-9) from 2x2 to 3x3 or 4x4, depending on the section. Currently the by-pass is toll free for all internal movements.

The situation in Santiago is completely different from the one in Alicante, where a toll-free by-pass close to the city already existed and a new tolled by-pass was built further inland. Almost nobody uses the new by-pass...

By the way, Santiago has 96.000 inhabitants, 148.000 in the metropolitan area.
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Old May 21st, 2014, 11:36 PM   #4397
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About the AADT of the sections to be enlarged in the AP-9:

Santiago bypass: 34.000 veh/day
Rande bridge (Northern access to Vigo): 52.805 veh/day

Figures from 2012. In 2007, considering it was the traffic peak before the crisis, Santiago bypass got 38.685 veh/day and the Northern acces to Vigo got more than 60.000 veh/day.
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About the AADT of the sections to be enlarged in the AP-9:

Santiago bypass: 34.000 veh/day
Rande bridge (Northern access to Vigo): 52.805 veh/day

Figures from 2012. In 2007, considering it was the traffic peak before the crisis, Santiago bypass got 38.685 veh/day and the Northern acces to Vigo got more than 60.000 veh/day.
34 000 AADT to 3+3 and 4+4! When will you learn! Madrid radial highways are in crappy conditions but they are doing 4+4 highways in the hills! Why does Santiago have two by-passes anyways?

Hiperronda was the absolute fiasco in Malaga = 4+4-5+5 for 20 000-40 000. Because it's too far from Malaga, just like Alicante by-pass that wasn't even needed!

Enlargement to 3+3 in Vigo with 52 000 is though absolutely justified.

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Old May 22nd, 2014, 03:59 PM   #4399
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3+3 for Santiago bypass seems to me pretty fair by adding a lane from the incoming and outcoming roads in the toll free section. 4+4 for me is only reasonable in a case where there are two intensively used exists really close each other, if not, I can't find a good reason for that.

In the case of Vigo, apparently even 1+2+2+1 future layout won't be enough because of the intense commuting between Vigo and Morrazo peninsula.
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Old May 22nd, 2014, 04:04 PM   #4400
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What is the status of A32 east of Linares and near Ubéda?
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