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Old July 23rd, 2014, 08:41 PM   #4561
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Tarragona-Montblanc A-27 is going to keep on in a 5 km stretch. That one on the Valls bypass

http://www.fomento.gob.es/MFOM/LANG_.../140723-03.htm
Any information about estimated completion?
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Old July 24th, 2014, 01:39 PM   #4562
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There's nothing on the press release, nor on local newspapers.
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Old July 24th, 2014, 05:33 PM   #4563
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They just say that machines are working again after being halted!
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Old July 24th, 2014, 08:13 PM   #4564
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There's nothing on the press release, nor on local newspapers.
Thanks, I haven't checked my former source but it said that the estimated completion should be in 2014. I guess that's unlikely (but I've no idea about the advance). What do you think, is 2014 or 2015 possible?
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Old July 24th, 2014, 10:19 PM   #4565
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2014 impossible. 2015, perhaps... there are general polls in november .... ....


But it will be only Tarragona - Valls north. From there to Montblanc it will be a nightmare. Just look at google maps.

I recommend you to take the AP-2 in El Pla de Santa Maria just for only one exit
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Old July 25th, 2014, 01:23 PM   #4566
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Thanks, I haven't checked my former source but it said that the estimated completion should be in 2014. I guess that's unlikely (but I've no idea about the advance). What do you think, is 2014 or 2015 possible?
A picture I found in a news article:



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I don't think this will be ready for 2014. End 2015 seems more plausible.

Unlike some have said, this stretch A-27 is not parallel to any toll road. Its purpose is to reach toll AP-2 in Montblanc following a straight line from Tarragona -something absolutely necessary for the busy port of Tarragona and its surrounding chemical industry. AP-2 comes to an end in El Vendrell, far north from Tarragona, so a driver going from Tarragona to Madrid on a full-motorway route will be forced to make a long detour. Current N-240 crosses a mountain pass and then becomes a semi-urban highway with lots of roundabouts and at-grade intersections.

With the opening of these two stretches, only the toughest part will remain halted, which is the tunnel under the mountain pass. Montblanc does already have a grade-separated bypass (though single-carriageway).

I think we can see it all open to traffic in 2020.
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Old July 26th, 2014, 05:09 PM   #4567
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g.spinozza.... I've been glancing for a while your perfect Spanish roads&motorways map and a small correction: A-23 in Sabiñánigo should be 400m north or more. It gets the N-260 junction.


But I am amazed about some accuracy with new works!!! should you need small project on going, just PM me and all related in my region I can point them to you
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Old July 28th, 2014, 10:12 PM   #4568
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is it this stretch marked as "in construction"?
http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/42.4874/-0.3720
Hi, Spinoza. Alserrod has shown us your map. I think it's a very detailed job. Thank you very much for your effort and interest.
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Old July 28th, 2014, 10:19 PM   #4569
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I have nothing to do with the map, I didn't create it, it's not "mine"... I just searched for it
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Old July 28th, 2014, 11:19 PM   #4570
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In any case, thank you for sharing it.
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Old July 29th, 2014, 01:57 AM   #4571
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If a road is 'abandoned' and no longer under construction it can be changed to 'proposed' on Openstreetmap to show it is not actually under construction at that time.

Once it is constructed it is a plain road, IE neither proposed nor under construction.

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Old July 29th, 2014, 07:22 PM   #4572
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Tomorrow it is expected to have opened four more kilometres in the A-23 in Nueno.
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Tomorrow it is expected to have opened four more kilometres in the A-23 in Nueno.
The 2nd carriageway b/n Congosto de Isuela and Nueno which was announced to be opened in late September?

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Correction: Still not full motorway, as all traffic has returned to the previously existing but now improved road. It will become a motorway in Late September. However, is now signed as A-23, not N-330.
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The Nueno-Isuela gorge section of Spanish A-23 keeps getting me (us) crazy. The info is correct, one carriageway open and signed as A-23... but they have diverted traffic (again) onto the new tunnel! Actually the section is completed, they are just waiting for those suckers to get their photo .
I guess the beloved top-ranking politicians have finally found time .
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Old July 29th, 2014, 10:55 PM   #4574
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Yes, that one.

They often open new motorways:

- on final July, before a great deal of cars are on roads
- before any poll
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Old July 29th, 2014, 11:52 PM   #4575
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We like to open roads in late July if there's no election in sight . They have confused so bad with this section. I claim it as clinched upon full opening, so I don't have to re-clinch A-23 again, I did it for the 4th or 5th time on Sunday when I went through the section near Sabinanigo. And for some reason I confuse this one with the planned Jabarrella reservoir-Sabinanigo South section...
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Old July 30th, 2014, 02:30 AM   #4576
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OK,... but today I've found an official release about politics who had made the "day before opening" ceramony....

I expect this time it is not a (another one) newspaper mistake
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Old July 31st, 2014, 12:14 AM   #4577
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In the press release (Spanish only) it says the road has an AADT of 8,000. This may be well over 10,000 when the A-21, A-22 and A-23 get completed, and also if France finishes upgrading its section of E07 (called RN134 there). Neither the motorways nor the French road won't be finished before 30 February, as it stands now...
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Old July 31st, 2014, 01:00 AM   #4578
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And we have another news that second tunnel (1,5 km long) could be opened in October
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Old July 31st, 2014, 01:37 PM   #4579
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France will never upgrade RN134. They're not interested.

A-22+A-23+A-21 will become the route of choice between Catalonia and the Cantabric coast though. This will boost traffic. Sadly I don't see this happening before A-21 is complete on the Aragonese side.
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Old July 31st, 2014, 01:49 PM   #4580
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either the full A-22
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