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Old July 31st, 2014, 08:22 PM   #4581
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And we have another news that second tunnel (1,5 km long) could be opened in October
2nd tunnel, is there only one tunnel in Spain so far?

Which tunnel, which section? Alto de Monrepos – Arguis?
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Old July 31st, 2014, 09:14 PM   #4582
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Google street view images are out of date but... I think they can serve

https://www.google.es/maps/@42.32459...Q0veMs1ulA!2e0

Looking to the north, right tunnel was opened in 1993 and nowadays is cut to traffic due to a refurbishment (it was OK but maybe the only chance to make works inside without a traffic but)
Left tunnel was opened several months ago. Nowadays you will cross in a 1x1 the mountain using left tunnel.


This is the other side of both tunnels (in this picture, right one is currently on service 1x1, left one under works for refurbishments)

https://www.google.es/maps/place/221...3703a3d30b4f29

and... over both ones you can see former Manzanera tunnel, the same road but... quite narrow one and another route...



Next opening will be just this second tunnel, nothing else to my best knowledge!


Looking to the north, there is a 450m tunnel that will remain for one direction. In the left side there will be a new 3 km or so tunnel for second carriageway.

https://www.google.es/maps/@42.33595...T_naM3rNOw!2e0
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Old July 31st, 2014, 09:31 PM   #4583
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Next opening will be just this second tunnel, nothing else to my best knowledge!
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A23: Alto de Monrepos – Arguis 2 3.2km (2012 to 2014 => October 2014) – ? – map

Per the latest news reports,
I guess the section length is not 3.2km. Maybe ~2.0km.

PS: Please let's stay in this thread with updates to ongoing Spanish projects. Thanks.
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Old July 31st, 2014, 09:34 PM   #4584
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Don't mention it...

Tunnel length is 1500ish metres. Lets think in road coming from both sides to it so about 3 km at least...


But we will have an important bottleneck. This is... going to Huesca, after the mountain pass you will have the second tunnel opened. Wow!, motorway!!! (either 80 km/h restrictions and radars). But 2x2. And just after the tunnel and for two km. more... 1x1 again.

I guess that in several winter weekends we will have there traffic jams
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Old August 1st, 2014, 12:13 AM   #4585
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Researching a bit I've found that several tunnels were studied on N-260. It would be nice if any day they build all of them .
Fadas pass Tunnel, between Laspaules and Castejon de Sos. Would be 4 kilometers long. What a pity I haven't found if they have studied another tunnel for nearby L'Espina pass, between Montanuy and Laspaules...
Ventamillo gorge Tunnel, between Castejon de Sos and Seira. The only way to make a good road through the gorge without causing a enviromental collapse. Would be 3.5 km long.
Esera gorge Tunnel, between Seira and Campo. Would be 5 to 5.6 km long. This is actually the lower part of the Ventamillo, not so of a gorge though.
Campo bypass Tunnel. Would be 3 km long. Not sure where it would be located, though.
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Old August 1st, 2014, 01:58 AM   #4586
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Ventamillo gorge area would have 4 different tunnels at all
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Old August 11th, 2014, 10:28 AM   #4587
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Two new streches in the A-8 where opened last week.

One of them is Santander overpass. A small one. You will require to approach Santander to go through... but it is still a new part of the project.

Second one 7.6 km in the boundary of Asturias with Cantabria.

With this last one, only 4 km of road 1x1 remains to go from Portugal to France via the north side of Spain full motorway.



Press releases

http://www.fomento.gob.es/MFOM/LANG_.../140807-02.htm

http://www.fomento.gob.es/MFOM/LANG_.../140807-04.htm


(and hope I will tell all of you about these motorways in few days)
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Old August 26th, 2014, 12:41 PM   #4588
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Fomento has unlocked the Sabinanigo East-Sabinanigo West section of A-23 (The one between two already open sections). Planning ran into troubles due to polluted soil, and they had to find a way around it. The new section will be 4.5 km long (Which doesn't seem consistent with mileposts). Now it can be... challenged.
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Old August 26th, 2014, 01:32 PM   #4589
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A8: La Franca – Unquera 12 5.2km => 4.5km (? to Mid 2015 => Late 2014) – ? – map
According to latest reports, this section, due to open before the end of current year, is facing some troubles as there is an unstable ladder which is producing landslides every then and now. Stabilizing it is important because the motorway will run atop it and N-634 will run below it. Current N-634 is going to be absorbed by the motorway.
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Old August 26th, 2014, 01:46 PM   #4590
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Fomento has unlocked the Sabinanigo East-Sabinanigo West section of A-23 (The one between two already open sections). Planning ran into troubles due to polluted soil, and they had to find a way around it. The new section will be 4.5 km long (Which doesn't seem consistent with mileposts). Now it can be... challenged.
Does this mean it's U/C now or that plans have been restarted?
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Old August 26th, 2014, 01:55 PM   #4591
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Plans have been restarted, it's not U/C yet.
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Old August 26th, 2014, 03:55 PM   #4592
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Does this mean it's U/C now or that plans have been restarted?
Plans have been set to zero again. A new project is required.

People with affections in this new project have 30 days to claim if they want.


It means starting again the project but it will be better than having a halted project, not started and without any future
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Old August 27th, 2014, 03:00 PM   #4593
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Old August 31st, 2014, 05:07 PM   #4594
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Old September 2nd, 2014, 04:35 PM   #4595
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A video of Túnel del Cadí in the Spanish Pyrenees:



It's the fourth longest road tunnel in Spain and opened 30 years ago in 1984. Toll is expensive, but it saves half an hour when driving from Barcelona to Puigcerdà, and almost 2 hours if you plan to drive between both ends of the tolled section avoiding the tunnel.

For a long time now, there's a political will to build a second tube, in order to have a full-motorway standard connection between Barcelona and Toulouse via Puigcerdà and Tunnel du Puymorens (instead of the current, long detour via Narbonne). It seems distant, though, and all that's going to be done in this route in the coming years is the widening to 2+1 lanes of C-16 between Berga and Bagà (with a movable barrier) and a likely Puigcerdà bypass.
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Old September 3rd, 2014, 08:10 PM   #4596
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Is there a central website where I could check the financial statements of all concessionaires of tolled highways in Spain?

Second question: is there any highway project in Spain that uses "shadow tolls" (meaning cameras count the traffic, gov't (instead of drivers) pay the concessionaire directly?
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Second question: is there any highway project in Spain that uses "shadow tolls" (meaning cameras count the traffic, gov't (instead of drivers) pay the concessionaire directly?
C-25 in Catalonia
ARA-A-1 in Aragon
Refurbishing of A-1 A-2, A-3, A-4 is being done with shadow tolls

and probably a lot more
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Is there a central website where I could check the financial statements of all concessionaires of tolled highways in Spain?

Second question: is there any highway project in Spain that uses "shadow tolls" (meaning cameras count the traffic, gov't (instead of drivers) pay the concessionaire directly?
Most Catalan regional-government financed, toll-free motorways have been built with shadow tolls. C-25, C-16, C-35/C-65/C-31, C-17 and C-15 use shadow tolls, and also single-carriageway expressways such as C-15/C-37 between Vilafranca del Penedès and Manresa. Other highways were incorporated to this system after being built as a compensation for an upgrade or another project, such as C-17 between Centelles and Vic, which was built as a dual-carriageway road in 1995 and upgraded to motorway standards (with shadow tolls) in 2010, with the upgrade being mostly cosmetic touches like signage and new crashbarriers. You can find more information on these projects in the Cedinsa website (the concessionaire).

Regional motorways in Castilla-La Mancha (CM-42, CM-40, CM-41, CM-45) have also been financed using shadow tolls.

In Galicia, AG-11 and AG-41 do also use this system. Not sure about other motorways such as AG-53 and AG-64.

And in Murcia, nearly all regional motorways (RM-1, RM-2, RM-3...) have been built this way.

In Madrid there are also M-501 and M-503. AFAIK, the first motorway built using shadow tolls in Spain was M-45 in Madrid.

There may be more cases, but these are the ones that come to mind. There are no state-owned motorways built with shadow tolls, only the already-mentioned upgrades of radial autovías. I think A-66 between Benavente and Zamora is being built with a PPP system, but I don't know the details of it.
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Old September 4th, 2014, 06:11 PM   #4600
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C-25 in Catalonia
ARA-A-1 in Aragon
Refurbishing of A-1 A-2, A-3, A-4 is being done with shadow tolls

and probably a lot more
I think M-45 in Madrid was the first one and I am not sure, but some new streches of halted motorways were to be considered as that
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