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Old October 16th, 2014, 11:00 PM   #4681
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One of the most important road links between Spain and Portugal, in Fuentes de Oñoro and Vilar Formoso, will finally be replaced by a motorway since the works in the final 5 km of A-62 on the Spanish side of the border are scheduled to start in December. The works should be completed in March 2018. Here in Portugal the motorway ends 1 km away from the border and some work has to be done too, but I still haven't heard anything about it.
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Old October 16th, 2014, 11:32 PM   #4682
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That means that, if the Spanish side is finished before the Portuguese side, it won't open until the latter is finished, right?
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Old October 17th, 2014, 12:51 AM   #4683
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Something like this:


End of Tollway at Morocan Border, Margnia, Tlemcen, Algeria, November 2010 Snig @ Panoramio
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Old October 17th, 2014, 01:05 AM   #4684
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Well, at least there's an agreement with the Portuguese on where will both ends connect. I doubt Algeria and Morocco have discussed that.
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Old October 17th, 2014, 03:13 AM   #4685
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Actually, I think that when the international link through motorway in Vilar Formoso/Fuentes de Oñoro was published, the Spanish stretch and the Portuguese one where already perfectly drawn in the plans. So, the project for the international section if already done. Another different issue would be the lack of coordination between Spain and Portugal.
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Old October 17th, 2014, 11:51 AM   #4686
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Taking into account that Portugal only has to build 1 km and refurbish the actual interchange entering Vilar Formoso and that Spain will build their 5 km in 40 months (which is a quite slow pace...), the works on this side of the border can perfectly start later.

Still, if that doesn't happen there will be an interchange on the Spanish side right near the border (here), connecting directly to the TIR terminal so the new section on Spanish soil can be used anyway even if we take a little more to build our part.
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Old October 17th, 2014, 01:33 PM   #4687
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Thanks, it's clear now.
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Old October 17th, 2014, 08:49 PM   #4688
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Well, at least there's an agreement with the Portuguese on where will both ends connect. I doubt Algeria and Morocco have discussed that.
The signs stand almost exactly on the borderline. I think they've discussed it. Or if they haven't, the Morrocans won't have any real choice by now.
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Old October 20th, 2014, 02:41 PM   #4689
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A video of C-17 between Vic and Ripoll, in Barcelona and Girona provinces. The last stretch of this motorway opened in 2011 and one of its carriageways uses an existing road, whilst the other one runs mostly through tunnels. The motorway is actually longer southbound than northbound, as part of the northbound carriageway is two-way and at-grade.

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Old October 21st, 2014, 07:34 PM   #4690
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Construction has been suspended (again) on AG-55 from Baio to Berdoais (17 km). The remaining 27 km from Carballo to Baio is still planned to be completed by 2016.

http://www.laopinioncoruna.es/galici...km/890693.html
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Old October 22nd, 2014, 06:07 PM   #4691
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Why is this 2x3? Doesn't seem to lie in a particularly busy environment...
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Old October 22nd, 2014, 09:30 PM   #4692
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Why is this 2x3? Doesn't seem to lie in a particularly busy environment...
3 lanes per direction? I don't see it as overkill for the given area.

And besides (and as I've said in the Portugal Road Thread), it's better to have high supply and low demand THAN high demand and low supply.
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Old October 22nd, 2014, 11:02 PM   #4693
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Why is this 2x3? Doesn't seem to lie in a particularly busy environment...
Simply because it's not in Spain .
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Old October 25th, 2014, 09:07 PM   #4694
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I have a few questions.

1. Can someone explain to me the hierarchy of roads in Spain? Alternatively, migt provide a link where it is explained. For example in OSM around Lleida city are A-2, N-240, C-13, LL-11, LP-9221, LV-9224 roads. It's hard to find logic
2. Who manages which roads? Where can I find full lists of roads (their course and numbering)?
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Old October 25th, 2014, 09:43 PM   #4695
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It's a bit complex. Roads can be managed either by the state, regional governments (Comunidades Autónomas) or provinces. And every entity has its numbering system. State-owned motorways begin with A if they are not urban. State-owned urban motorways and other roads have another prefix depending on the city they are (LL for Lleida, M for Madrid or B for Barcelona). Regional governments have their own numbering schemes, with different prefixes (C for Catalonia, regardless of the type of road, motorway or not, A for all roads in Andalucía, A for motorways in Castilla y León and CL for non-motorways in that region). And provinces do also have their system, usually the province code plus V or P (so BP and BV for Barcelona province and LP and LV for Lleida province). There may be additional codes in some regions. For example, in Catalonia the regional government does also manage roads starting by B, GI, L and T.

This Wikipedia article (in Spanish) may be helpful to you. It has links to the articles on the road network of every entity (State and regional governments).

It's a big mess -I think only the American road numbering system comes close to that. But they have many more roads there, which sort of justifies having that many ways to number them.
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Old October 25th, 2014, 09:55 PM   #4696
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The American system is much less complex. They have two national systems (US and IH) and statewide numbering systems, plus county roads in most states. That's only 4 levels of road numbering.

The prefixes sometimes used in discussion, like CA-1 for California State Route 1, is not an official road number. It's just State Route 1, not CA-1. People use that as shorthand.
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Old October 25th, 2014, 10:08 PM   #4697
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verreme, thanks for the explanation and the wiki link!
The multitude of prefixes totally embarrassed me
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Old October 27th, 2014, 07:31 PM   #4698
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A-7, Granada province

La ministra ha anunciado que los tres tramos pendientes en esta provincia se pondrán en servicio en diciembre de 2014 (Polopós-Albuñol); abril de 2015 (La Gorgoracha-El Puntalón); y septiembre de 2015 (Carchuna-Castell de Ferro).
Opening months announced for A-7 in Granada province.

http://www.fomento.gob.es/MFOM/LANG_.../141027-01.htm
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Old October 28th, 2014, 06:03 PM   #4699
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Article does also say that the first two stretches of GR-43 West of Granada is set to open in 2015, and that the outer bypass of the city (A-44) has funding again after being paralyzed for years.
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Old October 31st, 2014, 02:58 PM   #4700
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SEIM has posted on the Spanish forum the plans of the new access to the Barcelona port from the motorway A-2.

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