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Old March 19th, 2015, 10:40 AM   #5001
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The Almansa-Xàtiva motorway and a non-existant toll motorway North of Malaga? (You probably meant A-45 and AP-46)
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Old March 19th, 2015, 01:18 PM   #5002
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He obviously means A-45 and AP-46. I've driven on the A-45 and I can say it's a really difficult terrain. Most of it goes along the Guadalmedina river gorge. There are a number of tunnels which would've been quite expensive to widen.

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The old N-331 Antequera-Málaga was opened in 1973 (video: http://www.rtve.es/filmoteca/no-do/not-1597/1470261/). Then, the A-45 was opened in 1992, using parts of the N-331. And finally, the AP-46 was opened in 2011. That's a new road every 19 years...
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Old March 19th, 2015, 09:30 PM   #5003
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According to Fomento, AADT on AP-46 was around 9.400 vehicles a day (15.000 in August), so this motorway can't be considered a failure like Madrid's Radiales, AP-41 or AP-7. A-45 is winding and narrow, and widening it would have been very difficult. Plus, it now has average speed cameras in the long 80 km/h section -torture.
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Old March 19th, 2015, 09:41 PM   #5004
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I wonder how much trucks use AP-46. Probably very few, given their attitude to toll roads elsewhere (notably AP-2).
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Old March 19th, 2015, 10:46 PM   #5005
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in 2013 around 1000 trucks per day

but there is a trick. Ap-46 is free at night
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Old March 20th, 2015, 07:48 PM   #5006
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EL-20 around Elche will open to traffic on Sunday, March 22. Construction started in or before 2009, and was very slow to dormant.

It doesn't look like a real autovía though, the junctions appear to be roundabouts in Google Earth imagery.
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Old March 20th, 2015, 08:20 PM   #5007
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EL-20 around Elche will open to traffic on Sunday, March 22. Construction started in or before 2009, and was very slow to dormant.

It doesn't look like a real autovía though, the junctions appear to be roundabouts in Google Earth imagery.
Only a very short stretch (1 kilometer) of that scheme, from the current end of EL-20 to the next junction, is an autovía. Almost the entire road is a dual-carriageway with roundabouts.
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Old March 20th, 2015, 11:03 PM   #5008
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The final segment of the EX-A1 opened to traffic in Extremadura, Spain. It is the bypass of Coria. It is 5 kilometers long according to the press release, but closer to 6 km according to Google Earth measurement. This completes the 99 kilometer autovía from Navalmoral to Moraleja.

http://www.europapress.es/extremadur...320184654.html

http://www.gobex.es/comunicacion/noticia&idPub=15923
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Old March 21st, 2015, 02:31 AM   #5009
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Now the only section that remains to be built is the international connection (23 Km), that is waiting for the Portuguese to decide to built the IC31 (Castelo Branco/Alcains»Termas de Monfortinho [56 Km])!!
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Old March 21st, 2015, 02:03 PM   #5010
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is necessary this motorway to nowhere ?
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Old March 21st, 2015, 02:21 PM   #5011
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I believe they postponed the plans to extend it to the Portuguese border indefinitely. There is currently not even a regular main road, so there is almost no potential traffic that would use a motorway west of Moraleja.

Theoretically it could be a fast connection from Madrid to the interior and coastal area north of Lisbon. There were also plans to extend A-58 from Cáceres to Portugal, however the current N-521 carries only 1,300 vehicles per day.
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Old March 21st, 2015, 02:36 PM   #5012
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Old March 21st, 2015, 02:46 PM   #5013
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The last thing Spain needs ( and certainly Portugal) is another motorway connecting the two countries....bar that very short missing section to connect A25 Portugal to A62 Spain.
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The most obvious missing link in the cross-border motorway network is a direct route from Sevilla to Lisbon. It could shave 60 km off the current motorway routes via either Mérida or Faro. However, there is not as much potential traffic between the two cities. N-433 carries only 1,300 vehicles per day at the Portuguese border, but the route is currently too much secondary roads to attract long-distance traffic. Even a direct motorway connection would likely not attract more than some 5,000 -10,000 vehicles per day.
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Problem there Chris is that there are no substantial towns between Seville and Lisbon ( in a straight line) . It would be a waste of money. The Portugese have (had) a plan to kick off a motorway heading east from their A2 motorway to the town of Beja but that would be a waste of money in my opinion.
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Old March 21st, 2015, 03:16 PM   #5016
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The last thing Spain needs ( and certainly Portugal) is another motorway connecting the two countries....bar that very short missing section to connect A25 Portugal to A62 Spain.
I agree with A62. What's about an extension of the Portuguese A4, the potential future Spanish A11 b/n border and Zamora?
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Old March 21st, 2015, 03:24 PM   #5017
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Braganza is the endpoint of the A4 and has a population of 30k or so. There is nothing between Braganza and Zamora Micih...except mountainy terrain..... and there is a perfectly good motorway connection between Spain and Portugal a few km west of Braganza.

Any other road worth building or improving between Portugal and Spain should be an S2 project.
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Old March 21st, 2015, 04:17 PM   #5018
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Btw, in the Spanish forum we have a thread called "A-11 Soria-Bragança!. Obviously the motorway will arrive till the border with that numer we (I) thought interesting to set the nearest Portuguese node in thr thread name
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Old March 21st, 2015, 04:42 PM   #5019
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There is a perfectly fine and not heavily trafficed N ROAD between Zamora and the A4
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The A4 endpoint is not Braganza but the border. I know that there is N122 and that there's a good connection via A52 - A75 - A24. On the other hand, I read that the Spanish A11 was / is planned to be built up to the border. The future A11 would connect Portugal to Zaragoza. I think that would be a direct transit route to bypass Madrid unlike using AP68 - AP1/A12 - A231/A66 or A62/A67/A6 - A52 - A75. That's why I asked.
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