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Old April 9th, 2015, 04:21 PM   #5121
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Do they have any plans to improve any sector of N-260 on its eastern sector?
Yes, there are plans to improve the Catalan section of N-260, but most of them are delayed due to the present economic situation.

Between Besalú and Figueres, N-260 is to be duplicated, thus becoming A-26.

Between Olot and Sant Joan de les Abadesses, they are planning to improve the current N-260.

In addition, there are several by-passes planned, namely in La Seu d'Urgell, Gerri de la Sal and La Pobla de Segur. Works even started in Gerri de la Sal but they were suspended and won't be resumed soon.

Finally, there is an ambitious plan to upgrade N-260 between La Pobla de Segur and El Pont de Suert, but it's so expensive that I doubt we'll see it in the next 10 or 20 years. It involves construction of several long tunnels.
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Old April 9th, 2015, 08:15 PM   #5122
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Do they have any plans to improve any sector of N-260 on its eastern sector?
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- N-260 Gerri de la Sal bypass (U/C, but works are stopped and there's no completion date)
- Les Preses and Olot bypass (likely to start construction in 2016)

Other projects that are still in discussion stage are:

- La Seu d'Urgell bypass
- N-260 between Olot and C-38 (still unclear if duplication is necessary)
- Collada de Toses tunnel
There's also the duplication to A-26 between Besalú and Figueres, another project that has been put on the shelf.
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Old April 10th, 2015, 06:17 PM   #5123
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After some nights with cuts in the traffic of A-49, since yesterday we can see some of the beams for the bridges of the future SE-40 over that highway.
Next week there will be more cuts of the traffic, so I suppose they are going to place the beams that should be further as seen in the second photo.

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(from dnt_azuaga in the spanish forum)


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(from @discober)

This junction will be high, considering that it connects two different 6-lane-highways and also at the west is being built a connection between Espartins and A-49 (very close town with 15.000 people, now this town doesn't have any connection with A-49)

A49(W-E) and SE-40 (N-S):


A-49 - Espartinas (at the north)


All together:
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Old April 10th, 2015, 06:52 PM   #5124
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The Spanish just love roundabouts near highway exits, like the Italians.
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Old April 10th, 2015, 10:29 PM   #5125
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The Spanish politicians just love roundabouts near highway exits, like the Italians.
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Old April 11th, 2015, 01:25 AM   #5126
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Politicians choose the design of motorway interchanges ?
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Old April 11th, 2015, 01:35 AM   #5127
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I didn't make the roundabout comment in a negative way. They are much safer than uncontrolled intersections with people coming straight off a highway ramp. Countries with busier highways like Netherlands or Germany prefer to use traffic-lights but I think many highway exits in Spain have little traffic so roundabouts do just fine.
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Old April 11th, 2015, 12:41 PM   #5128
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Politicians love roundabouts because they can be marvelously expensive if you add some art or landscaping -which is good for their friends in the companies that build them, who will "compensate" politicians in some way.
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Old April 11th, 2015, 02:59 PM   #5129
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The Spanish just love roundabouts near highway exits, like the Italians.
And what's about Frenchs?

Anyway, traditionally Germany and the Netherlands have been countries which haven't used roundabouts so intensively than France or Spain.ç

Anyway, I am not sure if cross intersections controlled by lights, which is the most common type in trunk conventional roads in the Netherlands, allow a higher capacity than roundabouts.
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I didn't make the roundabout comment in a negative way. They are much safer than uncontrolled intersections with people coming straight off a highway ramp. Countries with busier highways like Netherlands or Germany prefer to use traffic-lights but I think many highway exits in Spain have little traffic so roundabouts do just fine.
Wel... sorry if my comment seemed rude, it wasn't my intention. However I don't dislike roundabouts, I dislike the excess of roundabouts, but the two roundabouts in this project are ok for me
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Old April 11th, 2015, 11:11 PM   #5131
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Some regional governments have went completely mad with roundabouts. Valencia is the worst example. Any dual-carriageway road that's not an autovía is a roundabout-fuelled hell. And they are just enormous, even when they connect just rural dirt roads. You end up accelerating and braking every minute, which boosts fuel consumption. On such intersections, traffic lights with a proper green wave would handle traffic much better even if they have less capacity.
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Old April 11th, 2015, 11:30 PM   #5132
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Old April 11th, 2015, 11:39 PM   #5133
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V1.4 in A Coruña. It's even stranger when you consider the rest of the route is de-facto an autovía.
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Old April 12th, 2015, 12:03 AM   #5135
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From the urban plan documents of A Coruña:



It is expected a new urban network in the area. The strange thing is that they could build the roundabout later, when the area is urbanized, as it is a simple roundabout.
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Old April 12th, 2015, 12:03 AM   #5136
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Plus, three-lane roundabouts are just ridiculous. Just look at the picture and you'll see how people drive through them -I bet more than one insurance agent will have a seizure just by looking at that. In most cases two lanes would do, since people use them as there were only two lanes, or one.
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Old April 12th, 2015, 12:36 AM   #5137
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Speaking of useless roads, the regional Government of Castilla-La Mancha has announced that they will restart the paperwork to build the connection between Autovía de la Sagra (CM-41) with road CM-4010. This stretch of motorway started construction back in 2010, but it was stopped due to financial problems,...
This motorway was very necessary but they got to build first the least necessary part due to environmental impact problems
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Old April 12th, 2015, 05:32 PM   #5138
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I've just found this report of the "Asociación Española de la Carretera" from April 2014 called "Needs of investment in road maintenance": http://www.aecarretera.com/np/INFORM...ABRIL-2014.pdf

According to the report, Spanish roads (not counting the islands) would need an investment of 6.2 billion euros to become "acceptable".

Evolution of the situation of the pavement.
Red: State owned roads. Blue: Regional roads.


Ranking of regions:
0-100 Very poor pavement.
100-200 Poor pavement.
200-300 Acceptable pavement.
300-400 Good pavement.


Map:
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Old April 12th, 2015, 11:28 PM   #5139
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I think they exaggerate a little bit -Spanish roads are in very good condition compared to, say, Southern France.
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Old April 12th, 2015, 11:39 PM   #5140
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It should be necessary to compare homogeneous data from different countries. I have no idea about the methodology they have used.

Maybe, their criteria applied to Southern France would show even a worse condition.
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