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Old January 5th, 2016, 04:06 PM   #5941
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IIRC N-I between San Sebastián and Etxegarate pass has "Autovía" signage and is still signed N-I. There are more roads like this in the Basque Country, such as N-637 in Bilbao. They have their own numbering system, and they've just kept the old Spanish national numbers.
Yes, the last time I drove in Gipuzkoa (October 2015) all of it was signed N-I. The background of the directional signs was blue, but in the kilometre posts it was white.

Besides, traffic coming from France directed towards "Vitoria-Gasteiz" and "Burgos" is directed via AP-1 (tolled). If you want to take the toll-free alternative you actually have to follow the route to "Lasarte-Oria".
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Old January 5th, 2016, 04:16 PM   #5942
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I reckon somewhere (Zaragoza?) will build a Z1 Autovia....sooner or later...
and that will of course mean that Spain finally has a complete Autovia network from A to Z
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Old January 5th, 2016, 04:44 PM   #5943
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There's Z-40 already . And kmposts in the northern section have both A-2 and Z-40 in them, so that section is complete from A to Z.
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Old January 5th, 2016, 04:44 PM   #5944
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Zaragoza already has Z-30 and Z-40 (third and fourth ring roads), although only the latter is a motorway (Z-30 is an urban ring road with traffic lights).
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Old January 5th, 2016, 04:51 PM   #5945
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Z30 is a street (started to be built in 1960s)

Z40 is a full ring motorway finished in 2008 and enlarged later with an area of 2+3-3+2
Speed limit is 120 (except in a little tunnel)

It is a long time I do not see congestions in that ring
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Old January 5th, 2016, 05:11 PM   #5946
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Z40 is a full ring motorway finished in 2008
Spain has a complete motorway network from A1 to Z40 so.
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Old January 5th, 2016, 06:27 PM   #5947
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If you take the German motorway-like roads (Autobahnähnliche Straße or Gelbe Autobahn) into account, both countries have approximately the same motorway length.

Although the standards of the Autobahnähnliche Straße vary somewhat. Some do not have shoulders or are on a substandard alignment. Of course the Spanish autovía also has segments that are somewhat substandard, but most of it has been eliminated in recent years. The Spanish autovía is much less substandard than many Italian superstrade.
It's difficult to make a comparison because Autovías have been built with different standards through the last 40 years.

The most substandard segments that remain in the Spanish network are those built prior to 1990, such as the A-7 Marbella-Fuengirola, parts of the N-I in Gipuzkoa and parts of the A-1 in Madrid. That must add up about 100 km.

Then we could count other first-generation Autovías, i.e. those segments that opened mostly before 1993 and have not been refurbished yet: Parts of the A-2, A-3, A-4, A-5, A-6, A-7, A-42, A-55, A-62, A-68, A-92... Maybe another 1,500 km?

Second-generation Autovías (opened between 1993 and 1998) used parts of the old national roads when the allignment was good enough.

Most Autovías opened after 1998 are virtually no different from Autopistas. They were built on a brand new allignment. I'm not totally sure but I'd say they make up nearly 2/3rds of the total Autovía network.
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Old January 5th, 2016, 07:13 PM   #5948
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When will they finish GI-632 between Bergara and its current terminus east of Antzuola?

Is it likely the new government will announce some plans to fully build a highway Valladolid-Aranda del Oro-Soria-Tarazona-Tudela? There are some bits and pieces in places, mostly bypasses already completed.
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Old January 5th, 2016, 07:59 PM   #5949
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When will they finish GI-632 between Bergara and its current terminus east of Antzuola?

Is it likely the new government will announce some plans to fully build a highway Valladolid-Aranda del Oro-Soria-Tarazona-Tudela? There are some bits and pieces in places, mostly bypasses already completed.
But we haven't got a new government yet

Only the part between Aranda de Duero and Soria seems likely to be finished in the near future (let's say no further than 2020). Then maybe Valladolid-Aranda de Duero.

As for the rest, I doubt anything will ever be built, except for a very much needed bypass in Tarazona.
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Old January 5th, 2016, 08:11 PM   #5950
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If A-11 is ever completed between Valladolid and Soria, the increase in traffic will for sure justify building A-15 between Soria and Tudela.

That's the shortest route between, on the one hand, Northern Portugal, Southern Galicia, Zamora, Salamanca and Valladolid, and, on the other hand, Aragon and Catalonia.
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Old January 5th, 2016, 09:13 PM   #5951
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Not all XX-NN roads are Autovías. The two-letter city codes only mean "entorno urbano", i.e. urban environment, regardless of their characteristics. A good example of this is the SG-20 in Segovia, which is a single-carriageway expressway, and it's got a red colour.

There might be some blue-colored non-Autovías (I only know of the PA-30 in Pamplona), but they can't be considered Autovías because they lack this sign:
Thank you for the clarification. I meant 'signed with blue cartouches like they were autovia'.

Pamplona has a few more blue routes (IIRC), parts of the A7 on the south coast are similar, there's also LL-20. The one I was thinking of, BA-20 in Badajoz, doesn't seem to have any signs at all - which must be why in the summer, I didn't include it in this mapping of all (or thereabouts) the blue shielded routes in Spain.
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Actually, the real reason not to renumber N-I in Gipuzkoa is that they want traffic to take AP-1 instead. They even changed some signs from blue to white background. Keep in mind that, unlike the rest of the tolled motorways in Spain, the AP-1 was actually built with Basque taxpayer's money
That makes sense, though there's surely no reason why they couldn't have renumbered it as something else, only with blue signs? As long as route-1 took the tolled road, and the other one was two digit, that would still get sign followers to stay on the toll. And it isn't as if Sat-navs and maps wouldn't be able to bypass the attempts at getting you to stay on the toll road!
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No... the fact is that Spains motorway network is a lot bigger than the autobahn network in Germany.
Only recently. Turn back 6 years, and I don't think that was the case (certainly 10 years ago it wasn't).
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171 kilometers of new roads and autovías opened to traffic in Andalusia in 2015: http://www.teleprensa.com/andalucia/...e-autovia.html

It appears that about half of all new autovías in 2015 opened in Andalusia.
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Old January 5th, 2016, 10:26 PM   #5953
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IIRC N-I between San Sebastián and Etxegarate pass has "Autovía" signage and is still signed N-I. There are more roads like this in the Basque Country, such as N-637 in Bilbao. They have their own numbering system, and they've just kept the old Spanish national numbers.
Yes, they maybe have Autovia signs, but, it's substandard.
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Old January 5th, 2016, 11:23 PM   #5954
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171 kilometers of new roads and autovías opened to traffic in Andalusia in 2015: http://www.teleprensa.com/andalucia/...e-autovia.html

It appears that about half of all new autovías in 2015 opened in Andalusia.
The article doesn't say so.

It says that the Andalusian regional government (remember, this is Spain ) has opened 171 km of new roads and autovías, not including the autovías opened by the Spanish government in Andalusia (e.g. A-7, A-32...).

And from this 171 km, 59.6 km actually correspond to autovías:

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En la malla de autovías, la Consejería de Fomento y Vivienda ha culminado en los dos últimos años, con un presupuesto de reactivación de 97,2 millones, la construcción y puesta en servicio de 59,6 kilómetros de vías, correspondientes a la autovía del Almanzora (Almería), concretamente a la variante de Albox (8,7 kilómetros), dando continuidad a 22 kilómetros de gran capacidad en el valle del Almanzora; y a la autovía del Olivar (Jaén), con la finalización de cinco tramos (35,6 kilómetros), dando continuidad a 75,2 kilómetros desde Úbeda y Baeza hasta Jaén y Martos, lo que supone el 78% de esta infraestructura en la provincia de Jaén.

A estas dos vías, se une la duplicación de la A-491 (Cádiz), con la entrada en funcionamiento de un tramo de nueve kilómetros que ha mejorado la movilidad entre las poblaciones de Rota, El Puerto y Chipiona; así como la culminación del vial metropolitano de acceso norte a Sevilla, que con una longitud de 6,3 kilómetros favorece la circulación fluida de entrada y salida a la capital hispalense desde las localidades de Brenes, La Rinconada, La Algaba y Alcalá del Río.
That is to say: 8.7 + 35.6 + 9 + 6.3 = 59.6 km
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Old January 5th, 2016, 11:27 PM   #5955
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Yes, but the national government also opened autovías in Andalusia. Well maybe it isn't exactly half of all motorway openings, but it seems that Andalusia had by far the largest share of autovía openings, though Galicia also had a number of opening events.

The biggest bang was the opening of A-66 between Zamora and Benavente: 49 km.
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Old January 7th, 2016, 07:03 PM   #5956
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LZ-3, Circunvalación de Arrecife

The Arrecife bypass on the island of Lanzarote was widened to four lanes last year. The expansion was inaugurated on 29 March 2015.

Eastern end:


LZ-1 interchange in the northeast:
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Old January 7th, 2016, 07:23 PM   #5957
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Pity...was near there last summer but on a taxi and on night.

Even if smaller, Lanzarote has double population than Fuerteventura, thus more traffic
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Old January 14th, 2016, 02:27 AM   #5958
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When will they finish GI-632 between Bergara and its current terminus east of Antzuola?
La Diputación prevé terminar la autovía de Deskarga a finales de 2018

So it will take long. They are fixing the problem they had and the works would start at the end of this year and take two years to finish. We will see..
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Old January 22nd, 2016, 08:05 PM   #5959
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Driving through Andalucía (Spain) from Sevilla to Málaga 23.12.2015 Timelapse x4

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