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Old October 11th, 2016, 01:09 PM   #6481
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Is that the autovia/autopista with the lowest AADT in Spain?
My best guess is that either RM-16 or RM-17 is the least used motorway in Spain. Two useless motorways serving an even useless airport.
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Old October 11th, 2016, 08:40 PM   #6482
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For the record, in the plan of 1993, the one that includes many motorways...
Priority motorways. (I'm going to include some roads of the same timeline made by important authonomic autorities).
A-1 Vitoria-Alsasua-Beasain*
A-2 Cervera-igualada
A-3 Honrubia-Teruel
A-4 Despeñaperros pass, Sevilla-Dos hermanas, Puerto SM-San Fernando
A-5 Almaraz-Jaraicejo, Trujillo-Merida
A-6 Benavente-Ponferrada-Lugo-A Coruña
A-7 Guadiaro-Estepona, Malaga-nerja-Motril (with new Malaga-Rincon Victoria), Adra-El Ejido-Almeria-N-344.
AP-7 Malaga-Estepona
A-8 (Prt of them, now A-64) Remaining sections between Solares and PB Vizcaya, torrelavega-llanes-Vilalviciosa-Pola de Siero.
AP-9 (for historic contracts) Cecebre-Fene, Vigo by-pass and Vigo-bypass-Tui.
A-9 Fene-Ferrol
A-10 Alsasua-irurtzun*
A-15 Irurtzun-Andoain.*
A-23 Sagunto_Segorbe, Zaragoza-Huesca-Nueno
A-30 Cieza-Murcia (with new by-pass of Molina)
A-32 Bailen-Lianres, by-pass of ALbacete
A-35 Almansa-Alcudia
A-37 (Free). Novelda-Elche-Torrevieja-Cartagena (Can't be done through Santa Pola because the environment).
A-42 Toledo-Bypass
A-44 Bailen-Jaen-Albolote, Alhendin-Durcal.
A-49 Huelva-Ayamonte.
A-52 benavente-Ourense-Vigo
A-62 Valladolid-Sevilla
A-66 Palsencia-Caceres, Merida-Zafra, N-433-Sevilla.
AP-66 Make Negron tunnel 2x2.
A-92N/A-91 Baza-Puerto Lumbreras
C-32N (A-19 RCE) Mataro-Palafolls
C-32S (A-16 GC) Sitges-El Vendrell.

Then the govermenet also planned, for long time
A-2 Barcelona-Girona-Francia
A-7 Barcelona-Tarragona-Castellon-Valencia, Motril-Adra.
A-8 El Astilelro_Torrelavega
AP-15/R-2 Madrid-Soria-Tudela
A-23 Segorbe-Teruel-Zaragoza
A-30 Albacete-Cieza
A-33 Between A-31 and A-35 (Then N-330 and N-430). This is why in the A-35 Intersection the exit is amde with autovia in mind (A-35 is from 1997)
A-40 Maqueda-Toledo-tarancon_Cuenca
A-43 Ciudad Real-Manzanares-A-3 junction.
A-44 Durcal-Motril
A-45 Cordoba-Antequera.
A-48 Chiclana-Algeciras (A-381 wasn't a plan by then).
A-51 (Free) Villacastin-Avila
A-61 (free) San Rafael-Segovia
A-62 Salamanca-Portugal
A-65 Benavente-Palencia
AP-66 Leon:benavente
A-66 Benavente-Zamora-Salamanca-Plasencia, Caceres-Merida, Zafra-N-433.
A-67 Palencia-Torrelavega.
AP-71 Leon_Astorga
A-92 Guadix-Almeria

And yes, R-3, R-4 and R-5 were planned here. As a FREE motorway.
For the rest of by-pass, the map is not very clear and I have to check case by case.
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Old October 11th, 2016, 08:47 PM   #6483
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My best guess is that either RM-16 or RM-17 is the least used motorway in Spain. Two useless motorways serving an even useless airport.
I think so too. These autovías only serve an airport that is not operational.

A-14 north of Lleida carries only 560 vehicles per day. But its usage will increase once it is connected to A-2, it's isolated segment is too much out of the way for traffic now.
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Old October 11th, 2016, 08:59 PM   #6484
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BU-30

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BU30: Villalbilla de Burgos (A231) – Quintanaduenas ~8km (? to Late 2016) – ? – map
Although works are in a very advanced stage, it's not clear whether the October 2016 deadline will be met. There are still some incomplete structures and the last layer of asphalt is still missing, besides other minor works.

As the Burgos area receives a lot of rain between October and March (usually also snow in winter), some people point out the difficulty of completing this section before spring 2017 unless they're able to finish the works before the end of this month.

So we'll have to follow closely the subject in the next weeks.

In the meantime, some recent pictures:







http://www.diariodeburgos.es/Noticia...circunvalacion
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Old October 11th, 2016, 09:21 PM   #6485
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A21: Santa Cilia – Jaca-West 9.0km (? to >= 2016) – ? – map
I haven't found any recent news related to this section, but a couple of articles from June and July 2016, which contain interesting pictures:

Bridge on Aragon river just west of Jaca (June 2016):



http://www.diariodelaltoaragon.es/No...spx?Id=1002383

And some pictures of the same area taken in July 2016:











http://www.espiritudeportivo.es/noti...aca-oeste.html

So you can guess whether this section will open in 2016 or not...
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Old October 11th, 2016, 10:19 PM   #6486
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A-23: Lanave – Caldearenas 14.4km (< 2009 to suspended) – ? – map
Works on this section have restarted! They are working on the roundabout that will serve as 'temporary' end near Lanave, as well as on the Guarga river viaduct.
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A-23: Sabinanigo-West – Sabinanigo-East 6.9km (? to ?) – ? – map
I found they chose a new alternative some time ago, which includes a long bridge (over a km long) in order to avoid touching contaminated soils.
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Old October 12th, 2016, 01:47 AM   #6487
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I think so too. These autovías only serve an airport that is not operational.

A-14 north of Lleida carries only 560 vehicles per day. But its usage will increase once it is connected to A-2, it's isolated segment is too much out of the way for traffic now.
Nowadays A-14 has no sense because you may take a long detour for a couple of km.

Being linked with A-2 will be a different situation that could happen in next months.
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Old October 12th, 2016, 11:36 AM   #6488
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The yearbook of 2015 has been published. It not completed yet but it has all the statical info on road published (chapter 7)
http://www.fomento.gob.es/MFOM/LANG_...nuario2015.htm

The info on road is in Capitulo 7: Carreteras (is a pdf file)

At the end of 2015 Spain has a network of:

3040 kms of tolled motorways (autopistas de peaje)
12296 kms of expressways and free motorways (autovias y autopistas libres)
1686 kms of multilane roads (carreteras multicarril). These road were known before as dual carriageway roads (carreteras de doble calzada). The government has changed the name this year.

For international comparisons the total length of Spain network is 15336 kms (3040+12296)

The relevant part of the pdf file are

Table 7.2 (page 17): historical length of the network from 2000 to 2015
Table 7.3 (page 22): total length of road for autonomous communities and provinces including total national
And starting in page 38 you can get a description of each part of the motorway network
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Old October 12th, 2016, 01:51 PM   #6489
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What an unusual rest area along AP-9 just north of Santiago. Traffic has to make a U-turn to get back on the motorway.

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What an unusual rest area along AP-9 just north of Santiago. Traffic has to make a U-turn to get back on the motorway.
It looks like a never completed exit, later converted in rest area.
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Old October 12th, 2016, 09:39 PM   #6491
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I do think so. Seems to be prepared for an exit
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How many autovías were built to autopista standards, but never intended as a toll road?

They seem to share some characteristics;

* built in the 1980s/1990s
* they often have diamond interchanges
* exits are farther apart than on 'twinned' autovías (i.e. first-generation autovías)
* fewer or no partial exits (i.e. ramps on either side of a village)
* new alignment, not an expansion of the old road

So far I've located A-3/A-31 Honrubia - La Roda and A-66 León - Benavente. Perhaps A-52 was also partially built like that, it has a lower exit density than most autovías.

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A3-A-31 at Honrubia was, in those years the best "example" as how roads could improve.

It was clearly to link Madrid and Alicante but thanks to that motorway they could post a former local road and later the motorway in that area.
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Old October 12th, 2016, 10:05 PM   #6494
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A-49 Sevilla-Huelva, I think; probably all the way to the Portuguese border. It even had (and maybe still has) the "chopsticks" -autopista- sign. Obvoiusly that would make it an autopista and wouldn't be included in your question, but...
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Old October 12th, 2016, 10:09 PM   #6495
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How many autovías were built to autopista standards, but never intended as a toll road?

Nowadays I would state that all of them. It must be a special case but they are trying to search always for a motorway standard.

One out of those standards untolled motorways was the "Asturian Y" (Gijon/Aviles/Oviedo). Obviously also some streches made by a tolled motorway but first km. untolled
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A-7 between Alicante and Murcia was also built as a toll-free autopista. Same for A-66 and A-8 in Asturias (the so-called "Y"). This one is also one of the very few Spanish motorways with concrete pavement; I don't know if it's still there.

A-8 east of Santander was also built to autopista standards, and signed as such. And I think A-231 León-Burgos was made that way too.
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Old October 13th, 2016, 12:39 AM   #6497
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Finishing the nothern bypass of Burgos (as seen in post # 6485) could result in a quicker journey between Zaragoza and Leon. Currently Google Maps shows a 4 hr 7 min drive (without traffic) between Zaragoza-Plaza del Pilar and Leon-Plaza Mayor. The finished bypass may result in a reduction by a few minutes.
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A-8 east of Santander was also built to autopista standards, and signed as such. And I think A-231 León-Burgos was made that way too.
But surely not the Valdealgorfa-Arnes section.
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A-7 between Alicante and Murcia was also built as a toll-free autopista. Same for A-66 and A-8 in Asturias (the so-called "Y"). This one is also one of the very few Spanish motorways with concrete pavement; I don't know if it's still there.
A-66 still had concrete pavement as of last year.


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Old October 13th, 2016, 04:25 PM   #6500
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AFAIK, prior 1996, when a draft of the "3.1-IC Trazado" (regulations regarding allignment, etc.) was released, autovías and autopistas were designed in a different way from each other. So, basically, all autovías designed after 1996 have the same characteristics as tolled or toll-free autopistas (except exit density?).

Other cases of toll-free autopista designs that come to my mind could be the A-15 Irurtzun-Andoain, BI-636 Bilbao-Güeñes, M-40, M-45, M-50 in Madrid (again, these even have the chopsticks sign), A-1 Ariñez-Egino or A-23 Zaragoza-Huesca.
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