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Old October 16th, 2016, 11:30 PM   #6521
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I guess we will have someone more before standarize them
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Old October 16th, 2016, 11:46 PM   #6522
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I remember when it was first renumbered, A-23 North of Zaragoza had exit numbers in the 500s, as it retained N-330 numbering. It had a huge gap across Zaragoza, as it arrived from Valencia at kmpost 277 and the first one North was (and still is as that particular, substandard section has reverted to N-330) 503. Once the new alignment from Santa Isabel opened (2008) kmposts and exit numbers were changed to match those to the South, which reflected distance from the actual startpoint of A-23 at Murviedro, errr Sagunto.
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Old October 17th, 2016, 12:07 AM   #6523
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I remember when it was first renumbered, A-23 North of Zaragoza had exit numbers in the 500s, as it retained N-330 numbering. It had a huge gap across Zaragoza, as it arrived from Valencia at kmpost 277 and the first one North was (and still is as that particular, substandard section has reverted to N-330) 503. Once the new alignment from Santa Isabel opened (2008) kmposts and exit numbers were changed to match those to the South, which reflected distance from the actual startpoint of A-23 at Murviedro, errr Sagunto.


More or less, km. 501 of N-330 was here
https://www.google.es/maps/@41.66146...7i13312!8i6656
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Old October 18th, 2016, 04:03 PM   #6524
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C-25 Eix Transversal

C-25 is an autovía owned by the Catalan government, and operated through a shadow toll concession with Cedinsa. The motorway segment runs from A-2 near Cervera to A-2 near Girona is a shortcut through the Pyrenees. There are two notable cities along the route, Manresa and Vic.

C-25 was initially developed as a super two vía rápida, which opened in stages between 1993 and 1997. It was twinned to an autovía between 2008 and 2013 at a cost of € 838 million, which seems incredibly cheap considering the terrain with viaducts and tunnels. The motorway segment is 152 kilometers long.




1. Welcome to the Cedinsa network.

C-25-1 by European Roads, on Flickr

2. Lleida is a good two hours of driving.

C-25-2 by European Roads, on Flickr

3. An interchange with C-63. Most two-digit C-roads are of a higher standard, with quite a number of autopistas or autovías, or at least some degree of grade-separation.

C-25-5 by European Roads, on Flickr

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C-25-6 by European Roads, on Flickr

5. Catalan style signage.

C-25-8 by European Roads, on Flickr

6. The first tunnel. C-25 runs into the mountains fairly quickly.

C-25-10 by European Roads, on Flickr

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C-25-13 by European Roads, on Flickr

8.

C-25-14 by European Roads, on Flickr

9. Many exits lead to very small villages.

C-25-16 by European Roads, on Flickr

10.

C-25-20 by European Roads, on Flickr

11. Coll de Revell, 822 meters in altitude. C-25 passes under it through a short tunnel. There is a restaurant and fuel station on top.

C-25-23 by European Roads, on Flickr

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C-25-26 by European Roads, on Flickr

13.

C-25-30 by European Roads, on Flickr

14. C-25 then descends to Vic.

C-25-31 by European Roads, on Flickr

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C-25-32 by European Roads, on Flickr

16. N-141d. I wonder if it is related to N-141 which is a short route near Vielha.

C-25-35 by European Roads, on Flickr

17. The city of Vic (42,000 people).

C-25-36 by European Roads, on Flickr

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C-25-41 by European Roads, on Flickr

19. Northward C-17.

C-25-43 by European Roads, on Flickr

20. C-17 and C-25 run concurrent near Vic with six lanes, with a lot of weaving.

C-25-44 by European Roads, on Flickr
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Old October 18th, 2016, 04:21 PM   #6525
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I drove the whole length of it few weeks ago on my way to Madrid... the scenery is absolutely stunning.
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Old October 18th, 2016, 04:37 PM   #6526
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16. N-141d. I wonder if it is related to N-141 which is a short route near Vielha.
Nope. The original N-141 was intended to do what C-25 does now: a shortcut between Lleida and Girona. Two sections of it (Rajadell to Manresa and Vilanova de Sau to then C-153, now C-63, along Ter river) were never built. Back then, current N-141 was C-141.
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Old October 18th, 2016, 04:51 PM   #6527
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The scenery is stunning, even though it doesn't run through the Pyrenees but just through some small mountain ranges (Serralada Prelitoral and Serralada Transversal).

Regarding N-141, it used to be the main road between Cervera, Manresa and Vic before the construction of C-25. It was supposed to reach Girona, but it was left incomplete (I think it had something to do with the construction of Sau and Susqueda reservoirs). In any event, the completed sections were transferred to the Catalan government and renumbered as N-141a (Cervera - Calaf), N-141b (Calaf - Rajadell), N-141c (Manresa - Vic), N-141d (Vic - Sau) and N-141e (Anglès - Girona).

I guess once that road had been downgraded, they reused its numbering for the current 8 km N-141 Bosost - Col du Portillon.

PS: CNGL has been faster.
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Old October 18th, 2016, 08:51 PM   #6528
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C-25 west of Vic has also some nice scenery. There's a long descent where you have awesome views on the Lluçanès plateau from above, and a short section where both roadways split because of some archaeological remains that are visible from the motorway. Plus the entire drive is 120 km/h. More and more motorways are being restricted to 100, it's nice that C-25 isn't, especially considering that it was a duplication of a single-carriageway road with a 100 km/h design speed.
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Old October 18th, 2016, 09:11 PM   #6529
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I drove the whole length of it few weeks ago on my way to Madrid... the scenery is absolutely stunning.
I would recommend you this way if no hurry
https://www.google.es/maps/dir/Madri...42.4181324!3e0

Quite scenic landscape. Road side has barely traffic and it is fine.

If your destination is not Madrid but near or southern I could recommend you another one.
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Old October 18th, 2016, 09:14 PM   #6530
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N-141 is only this little road

There was a "law" to set all roads to border as national roads (even road to approach Gibraltar, or Andorra from La Seu.... when the rest of valley is not national). Obviously not all roads to border are national ones but this one it is... and it was a strategic point.

What I wonder is about where in hell booths were set. In the pass or in the cross?
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Old October 18th, 2016, 09:40 PM   #6531
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I drove the whole length of it few weeks ago on my way to Madrid... the scenery is absolutely stunning.
I agree! Drove there May 2015
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Old October 18th, 2016, 10:35 PM   #6532
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Interesting situation, AG-53 has the status of an autovía, but is signed as AP-53.

I think this sign is wrong, this should be AG-53, as it is south of Dozón (where AP-53 turns into AG-53).



You can see that AG-53 was designed as a toll road, all interchanges are trumpets, so they could fit a toll station on it. They also built ramps to a rest area that was never built.

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Old October 19th, 2016, 04:07 AM   #6533
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Interesting situation, AG-53 has the status of an autovía, but is signed as AP-53.
Could it be that Galicia basically robbed a motorway ( or its tolls ) off Fomento/Madrid or does AG mean Autovia de Granada in which case Galicia is entirely innocent. You already know how terminally confused I am about Spanish road nomenclatures Chris.
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Galicia has some interesting road numbering.

AG = Autovía Galicia?
VRG = Vía Rápida Galicia?
CG = Carretera Galicia / general?
VG = Vía Galicia?

And what are EP, CP, DP? Some VG routes have decimal numbers too
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Old October 19th, 2016, 11:22 AM   #6535
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VG and CG were originally VRG and CRG (Vía Rápida Gallega and Corredor Rápido Gallego). The vía para automóviles concept was originally called vía rápida before it was changed in 2003 (but to me it sounds the same as autovía). The VG and CG numbering follows the format <C-V<G-x.x, with the first x indicating the province where it's located (1 = Corunna, 2 = Lugo, 3 = Ourense though currently there are none, 4 = Pontevedra). and the x after the dot assigned sequentially (and not a decimal number, here we use a comma to separate them). As for CP, EP, DP all of them are provincial roads, with CP meaning carretera provincial, EP the same but in Galician (Estrada provincial) and DP meaning deputación (or diputación) provincial.

Meanwhile I was browsing the area South of Bilbao and found an interesting situation: if one gets off AP-68 through exit 3 (where Areta troll plaza is located), just after the toll one crosses the provincial from Biscay into Alava (Though turning left inmediately afterwards will return one to Biscay).
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Old October 19th, 2016, 12:09 PM   #6536
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Galicia has some interesting road numbering.

AG = Autovía Galicia?
VRG = Vía Rápida Galicia?
CG = Carretera Galicia / general?
VG = Vía Galicia?

And what are EP, CP, DP? Some VG routes have decimal numbers too
Just change "Galicia" (noun) for "Gallega" (feminine adjective) and you'll have the right names.
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The LO-20/N-232/AP-68 interchange in Recajo (east of Logroño) will open to traffic in February or March 2017.

http://www.europapress.es/la-rioja/n...019175028.html
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Old October 20th, 2016, 12:17 AM   #6538
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Signs are already two years ago or so. They point AP-68 but are hidden.
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Old October 20th, 2016, 12:20 PM   #6539
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A60: Puente Villarente – Santas Martas-South 20km (? to > 2017) – ? – map
Works were resumed but we can't say they're advancing at an impressive speed. Opening in 2018 is more likely than in 2017 according to eyewitnesses in the Spanish forum.







http://www.diariodeleon.es/noticias/...n_1107220.html


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A33: La Font de la Figuera (A35) – Caudete (A31) 12.5km (? to suspended) – ? – map
Works on this section are advancing at a good pace. According to eyewitnesses, in the recent weeks the progress has been considerable and the last layers of asphalt are being laid. Let's see if an opening before the end of 2016 is still possible, it would be a positive surprise.
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The LO-20/N-232/AP-68 interchange in Recajo (east of Logroño) will open to traffic in February or March 2017.

http://www.europapress.es/la-rioja/n...019175028.html
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Hoy ha tocado visita del ministro en funciones al enlace entre la LO-20/N-232/A-12 y la autopista AP-68 en Recajo (mapa). Ha dicho que estará para Febrero o Marzo. Enlace al artículo: http://www.larioja.com/la-rioja/2016...019183137.html

Unas fotos del diario La Rioja (fuente)

Mirando hacia el oeste (Logroño):


Mirando hacia el oeste (Zaragoza):


Aquí se ve un poco el panel informativo:


Aquí más grande, pero desenfocado (no había una foto mejor):


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http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...4&postcount=70
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