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Old November 30th, 2016, 12:38 AM   #6681
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Spanish traffic on toll motorways are highly seasonal. AP-1 is the most extreme but almost all of them are more crowded in summer than the rest of the year.

This is like the complaints of A-3 being 2x2. Any section of A-42 between Parla and Toledo has more traffic than A-3 between Arganda and A-31. However, the A-3 has more potents peaks.

Exampleof seasonal motorways:
-A-4 Madridejos 21.8k of AADT, 32,2k on AADT on August.

Almost all the non-urban sections of motoreay are seasonal with two exceptions:
-Roads that only serves one city that has no seasonal traffic (A-42 Toledo, A-58 Caceres).
-Roads that are not routes of emigration or going to the beach in Andalucia y Extremadura. A-4 between Cordoba and Seville.
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Old November 30th, 2016, 08:57 PM   #6682
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toll roads

If I'm reading this correct, a large number of toll road concessions will not be extended between 2018 and 2021, according to ABC.

* AP-1 Burgos - Armiñón (2018)
* AP-2 Zaragoza - El Vendrell (2021)
* AP-4 Sevilla - Cádiz (2019)
* AP-7 La Jonquera - Tarragona (2021)
* AP-7 Tarragona - Alicante (2019)

Does this also mean they will become toll-free? Or will they be toll roads operated by the government? I believe such a scenario is currently not common in Spain, but it is in some other EU countries, most prominently in Greece, Croatia and Poland.

In case of becoming untolled, the AP-7 corridor would save motorists almost € 65 in tolls (one-way!)
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Old November 30th, 2016, 09:05 PM   #6683
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In Italy, when a toll concession expires, you just invite tenders for a new one: maybe it is the same in Spain?
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Old November 30th, 2016, 09:28 PM   #6684
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That's currently more of a political issue in Spain.

Broadly explained, our motorway system consists of a few toll motorways (autopistas de peaje) built in the 60s-80s and a majority of toll-free motorways (autovías) built since the mid 80s until now. In addition, there are some bankrupt toll motorways built during the times of the real estate bubble (2000-2008) and also some toll-free autopistas from the 70s-90s.

This dual system has always created tensions between regions, as toll motorways are especially found in the Mediterranean and Ebro corridors, while in the rest of the country there are few of them, and where they exist they're isolated tolled sections (e.g. AP-4 or AP-66), not whole corridors like AP-7 or AP-68.

In addition, the government has spent a lot of money in the last two decades building toll-free motorways next to toll motorways in order to calm angry toll payers down in some regions (e.g. A-7 and AP-7 in Tarragona). But it seems that now they've finally realized this approach is unsustainable, so it's perhaps the time to finally make our network toll free.

It's highly unlikely they invite tenders for new concessions once the current ones expire; it would be very unpopular and seen again as a biased action against some regions. Besides, the ruling party has been repeating in the last 5 years that no concessions would be extended once they expire. However, I wouldn't rule out that instead of making them toll-free, the government starts operating toll motorways, but with a considerable reduction in toll fares.

That's what happened in AP-8 (Bilbao - Irún) when its concession expired and was assumed by the provincial governments of Bizkaia and Gipuzkoa.
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Old November 30th, 2016, 10:14 PM   #6685
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A-63

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A63: Cornellana – Doriga 2.4km (? to suspended) – ? – map
Works were restarted in May last year. Opening in June 2017.



Source: http://www.lne.es/occidente/2016/10/...a/1994856.html
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Old November 30th, 2016, 10:27 PM   #6686
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That bridge was considered the largest of its kind in Spain, it is 875 meters long, 70 meters tall and has a main span of 160 meters.
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Old November 30th, 2016, 11:39 PM   #6687
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There's an issue concerning the junction between A-2 and AP-7 in Castellbisbal.

Works for this much-needed connection started in 2006 and were halted shortly after due to the budget cuts. Then, someone in Fomento realized that the project didn't have enough capacity for the enourmous amount of traffic that it'll handle (40.000 vehicles per day, and the two flyovers will only have one through lane). Not only it will provide a toll-free shortcut between these motorways (the current connection costs drivers €2 and makes a big detour on substandard, congested roadways), but it will also funnel all the heavy traffic reaching the industrial areas in Vallès Oriental and Baix Llobregat (where some of the biggest employers in Barcelona metro area are) from A-2 and AP-7. Currently, many of these trucks are forced into two-lane local roads.

Two modifications to the original project were approved and implemented. These involved lengthening the merging lanes in AP-7 and A-2. However, in Fomento they aren't convinced that this will work and they are thinking about modifying the project once more. So, after years of very slow process, works are halted once more.

Link to the source. You can see the flyovers (which already have the final tarmac layer) on Google Maps.

This is the most travelled corridor in Barcelona metro area. A-2 carries in excess of 100.000 vehicles per day and congestion inbound starts in Castellbisbal. The new junction will put a lot of pressure on a road that's already exceeding capacity. AP-7 runs parallel to it, but there's also a lot of congestion in El Papiol junction, and there are no local exits between Sant Cugat and Martorell -which leaves all the industrial areas there without a motorway. Unlike A-7 in Tarragona, this is not about providing a toll-free alternative to a toll road, but about providing access to the biggest industrial areas in Barcelona metro.

The effect of B-40 on A-2 and AP-7 is also to be seen. Abrera-Terrassa stretch will open soon and it will certainly relieve the road network in the Vallès region.
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Old November 30th, 2016, 11:43 PM   #6688
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That's what happened in AP-8 (Bilbao - Irún) when its concession expired and was assumed by the provincial governments of Bizkaia and Gipuzkoa.
In addition and much like AP-68, AP-8 was originally retained by the Ministry of Public Works (later Fomento) through concession, but once it expired (in 1999 and without being extended) it was handed over to Biscay and Guipuscoa. Since then there are no roads owned by Fomento in the latter.
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Old December 1st, 2016, 04:07 PM   #6689
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C-13 Congost de Terradets

I also made a video of C-13 through the Congost de Terradets / Terradets Canyon. It's quite scenic.

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Old December 2nd, 2016, 12:19 AM   #6690
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A-23 to open second carriage in Nueno-Arguis again tomorrow.

It was cut due to problems with some rocks and the mountain. Works are already away.

Tomorrow all Pyrenees ski resort will open, next week Tuesday and Thursday are holidays and it is expected to have heavy traffic.
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Old December 2nd, 2016, 12:29 AM   #6691
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I was about to post that.

As we know, back in March some rocks fell over the Northbound carriageway of A-23, crushing a couple cars and forcing to temporarily detour all traffic onto the other roadway. Meanwhile a new snowshed (better termed as 'rock shed' in this case) has been built, and thus the Nueno-Isuela gorge section is fully operational again.
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Old December 2nd, 2016, 12:30 AM   #6692
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This is, all traffic, till today, has been in carriageway direction Huesca being 1x1 for 5 km.

Since tomorrow, 2x2 again.
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Old December 2nd, 2016, 05:13 PM   #6693
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NA-2011 Puerto de Larrau

Puerto de Larrau is a 1585 meter high mountain pass in Navarra, on the border with France. It's next to Pic d'Orhy, the westernmost 2000+ peak in the Pyrenees.



1. Coming from the south. The final 4 kilometers to the border are above the tree line.

Puerto de Larrau-1 by European Roads, on Flickr

2.

Puerto de Larrau-2 by European Roads, on Flickr

3. Pic d'Orhy / Ori straight ahead

Puerto de Larrau-3 by European Roads, on Flickr

4. There is a short tunnel on the Spanish side.

Puerto de Larrau-4 by European Roads, on Flickr

5. De Puerto de Larrau.

Puerto de Larrau-5 by European Roads, on Flickr

6. Welcome to Navarra.

Puerto de Larrau-6 by European Roads, on Flickr

7. The view towards the east.

Puerto de Larrau-7 by European Roads, on Flickr

8. A little bit higher (circa 1700 meters).

Puerto de Larrau-8 by European Roads, on Flickr
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Old December 2nd, 2016, 11:35 PM   #6694
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That mountain pass was crossed by Tour de France in 1996 as an homage to M.Indurain, arriving to Pamplona and crossing on his homevillage

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_Tour_de_France
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Old December 4th, 2016, 07:37 PM   #6695
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I was about to post that.

As we know, back in March some rocks fell over the Northbound carriageway of A-23, crushing a couple cars and forcing to temporarily detour all traffic onto the other roadway. Meanwhile a new snowshed (better termed as 'rock shed' in this case) has been built, and thus the Nueno-Isuela gorge section is fully operational again.


Source: http://www.fomento.gob.es/MFOMBPrens...2-24fce592253d
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Old December 4th, 2016, 10:05 PM   #6696
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Thanks for picture. I will copy it in local threads
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Old December 5th, 2016, 12:33 PM   #6697
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These 3 sections on MichiH's list are actually 6 different sections according to the official terminology (which in addition goes East to West, whereas MichiH's goes West to East):

La Mallona-Venta Nueva
Venta Nueva-Santiuste
Santiuste-El Burgo de Osma
Burgo de Osma-San Esteban de Gormaz (Oeste)
San Esteban de Gormaz (Oeste)-Langa de Duero
Langa de Duero-Aranda de Duero

And the Minister announced today that 4 of them will open in September 2018, while the other 2 will follow in September 2019, although he didn't specifically mention which ones are to open on each date. We can easily guess that Fresnillo de las Duenas – Langa de Duero (Langa de Duero-Aranda de Duero according to the official terminology) is one of the sections opening in 2019, as the construction contract was terminated a few months ago and nothing has changed, but I've no idea which one is the other one opening in 2019.
Wikipedia indicates that the A11 section next to the one to be tendered again should be opened in 2019. The source indicates that it's to be opened by Mid 2019 (which seems to be similar to September) but the remaining 4 sections to be opened in spring 2018. What should I indicate, Spring or September or maybe Mid 2018?
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Most press articles covering the meeting between the Minister and the regional President indicate September 2018 as the opening date (e.g. http://www.efe.com/efe/espana/econom.../10003-3110791). I'd rather trust them than wikipedia. But I also like the mid-2018 approach, it's difficult to know the exact date in advance.
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Old December 7th, 2016, 10:43 PM   #6699
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The 875 meter long and 75 meter high bridge across the Narcea River near Cornellana, Asturias. It will open to traffic in the spring.



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Looks like a situation where a suspension bridge might have been warranted, or cable-stayed with less pillars.
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