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Old January 16th, 2008, 12:24 AM   #661
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It's called a climbing lane
The direct translation from portuguese would be slow vehicles lanes. They are added to the roght of the usual 2 lanes.

I think in Spain they're usually fast vehicles lanes (added to the left side).
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Old January 16th, 2008, 09:44 AM   #662
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The direct translation from portuguese would be slow vehicles lanes. They are added to the roght of the usual 2 lanes.

I think in Spain they're usually fast vehicles lanes (added to the left side).
In most cases that is true. The extra lanes are on the left side of the motorway. But not always.

One strange thing from my point of view is that when the "climbing lane" is finished, the right lane must go left because that lane finish then. In stead of the right lane. Why is that?
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Old January 16th, 2008, 01:56 PM   #663
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In most cases that is true. The extra lanes are on the left side of the motorway. But not always.

One strange thing from my point of view is that when the "climbing lane" is finished, the right lane must go left because that lane finish then. In stead of the right lane. Why is that?
I guess the ones using the climbing lane (which is what it is, whatever you call it) are responsible for merging back into the regular traffic.
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Old January 16th, 2008, 02:31 PM   #664
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In my opinion Madrid has the best urban hightways in Europe and perhaps in the word!
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Old January 16th, 2008, 03:15 PM   #665
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One strange thing from my point of view is that when the "climbing lane" is finished, the right lane must go left because that lane finish then. In stead of the right lane. Why is that?
The right must merge with the others, instead of the right? I think you meant to write left in one of those.

Anyway, as Maxx☢Power said, I think it's allways the lane that was added (to the left or to the right) that has to merge with the others.
In here, it's usually added a lane to the right to slow vehicles, so when the extra lane finishes it's the ones on the right that have to merge to the left. But if the lane is added to the left (fast lane), then when it finished is the ones who are on the left who have to merge to the right.
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Old January 16th, 2008, 03:42 PM   #666
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I'd rather have the right lane becomes extra, and the left lane has to merge at the end. it's easier for cars to merge than a line of slow trucks.
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"Climbing lane" in A23, near Barracas









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Old January 16th, 2008, 04:20 PM   #668
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In most cases that is true. The extra lanes are on the left side of the motorway. But not always.

One strange thing from my point of view is that when the "climbing lane" is finished, the right lane must go left because that lane finish then. In stead of the right lane. Why is that?




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Old January 16th, 2008, 05:07 PM   #669
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In that case... I remember that there were also lanes that finished on the right and had to merge with the central lane.

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I'd rather have the right lane becomes extra, and the left lane has to merge at the end. it's easier for cars to merge than a line of slow trucks.

That's what I think too...
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Old January 16th, 2008, 05:35 PM   #670
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I'd rather have the right lane becomes extra, and the left lane has to merge at the end. it's easier for cars to merge than a line of slow trucks.
me too. actually, in Croatia we allways have extra (climbing) lane at right, and other two stay normal
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Old January 16th, 2008, 08:09 PM   #671
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I'd rather have the right lane becomes extra, and the left lane has to merge at the end. it's easier for cars to merge than a line of slow trucks.
Than you should just add a fast lane, to the left. In that case trucks don't have to do anything.
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Old January 16th, 2008, 08:16 PM   #672
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No, because then it isn't clear for traffic from behind it is a climbing lane. Accidents happen often with cars who underestimate the speed of a truck when it's driving 30 km/h / 20 mph, especially on busy sections.
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Hum... maybe that would be improved.

PS: You're absolutely forbiden (especially being a mod) to use imperial units in a european forum. No need to translate km's to miles to anyone here.
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PS: You're absolutely forbiden (especially being a mod) to use imperial units in a european forum
This is a European forum now?

It is an international/global forum though, and the "international" unit of measurement is metric, so I guess the responsibility lies on those who are backwards to do the converting
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Old January 17th, 2008, 04:07 PM   #675
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[QUOTE=FabriFlorence;17740451]In my opinion Madrid has the best urban hightways in Europe and perhaps in the word![/QUOTE

there great but not the best in europe i would say london or paris or barcelone in europe and no way in the world because cities like tokyo,la,sydney,toronto and even joburg.
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London really lacks a good highway system. Madrid has by far the best transportation system of all modes of all European cities.
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This is a European forum now?
I meant thread, not forum. And as this thread is about spanish motorways and Spain is in Europe, you get the picture.

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It is an international/global forum though, and the "international" unit of measurement is metric, so I guess the responsibility lies on those who are backwards to do the converting
Exactly!
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Old January 17th, 2008, 07:41 PM   #678
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London really lacks a good highway system. Madrid has by far the best transportation system of all modes of all European cities.
All modes?

I disagree...
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What mode of transport isn't good in Madrid?
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there great but not the best in europe i would say london or paris or barcelone in europe and no way in the world because cities like tokyo,la,sydney,toronto and even joburg.
Madrid definitely has the best motorways of any city in Europe, and among the best in the world.. London barely has any motorways at all. Not that that's necessarily a bad thing.
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