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Old February 4th, 2008, 11:32 PM   #721
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Yeah, Barcelona has done a pretty good job on their motorways ensuring the city's atmosphere will not be destroyed. The B-10 (southern beltway) is a good example too.
yes, Ronda Litoral is an art because it runs next to the beach, and doesn't ruin atmosphere at all. or at Mirador del Colon it tuns through centre of the city, and again - you don't feel it

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A-2? ^
you can see those bulls all around the Spain
but i would like to know where is that one where "Jamon Jamon" was made if i remember well, the cars had Zaragoza plates.
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Old February 5th, 2008, 12:08 AM   #722
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you can see those bulls all around the Spain
Yeah, they are almost everywhere and has become a symbol of the Spanish roads. They were installed as an advertisement for Osborne company in the 60s. Twenty years ago, these kind of ads were banned but people decided to keep them as a kind of cultural heritage.

Unfortunately they have suffered acts of vandalism and many were destroyed, but 90 of them are still 'alive'.

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i would like to know where is that one where "Jamon Jamon" was made if i remember well, the cars had Zaragoza plates.
Your memmory is good, as that film was shoot in Los Monegros desert (between Zaragoza and Huesca). There are 6 bulls in Aragón, but I can't remeber which one it was.

BTW, Nobody could have imagined Bardem would reach what he finally did.
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Old February 5th, 2008, 12:12 AM   #723
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BTW, Nobody could have imagined Bardem would reach what he finally did.
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Old February 12th, 2008, 07:27 PM   #724
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A week ago, Grado bypass was opened so 60% of A-63 (Oviedo-La Espina) is already on service. In 2010 it's expected to be finished as a whole.

Here you have some pics made by adcava from his trip between Oviedo and Grado, where A-63 finish nowadays.

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Desde Oviedo, el recorrido por la A-63 es muy cómodo y rápido:

San Claudio la fondo:



Enlace de Trubia



Falsos túneles entre los viaductos 1 y 2 del Nora



Túneles de Priañes desde el viaducto 2 del Nora



Bajada en Llera, en el tramo desdoblado hace poco



Viaducto del río Sama



El trazado sigue hasta los Túneles de Peñaflor





Y llegamos a Grao en un cuarto de hora



El último viaducto del la autovía operativa

After that, the motorway is still under construction

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Old February 12th, 2008, 10:38 PM   #725
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Thanks for the pics. Spain is so beautiful
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Old February 12th, 2008, 10:40 PM   #726
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God, you desperately need some rain
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Old February 12th, 2008, 10:50 PM   #727
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God, you desperately need some rain
You know, having almost 20ºC day after day isn't normal in February
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Old February 12th, 2008, 10:53 PM   #728
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Saves you a lot on heating

What kind of weather can i expect in central Spain in early September? Is it still too hot to drive without airconditioning?
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Old February 12th, 2008, 10:58 PM   #729
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Saves you a lot on heating

What kind of weather can i expect in central Spain in early September? Is it still too hot to drive without airconditioning?
Yes, you "need" aircon at least from June until the end of September :P
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God, you desperately need some rain
Yeah, it has been the driest autumn I remember.

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What kind of weather can i expect in central Spain in early September? Is it still too hot to drive without airconditioning?
In my opinion in September and June it's bearable. In July and August, not.

But with this changing climate who knows how our summer will be.
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Old February 12th, 2008, 11:20 PM   #731
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By the way, in this motorway they used a construction system not really usual here. First they built the first carriageway and while it was on service (working as a 1x1 road) they built the other one.

The reason might have been the poor route of the old Nacional. It took around 35 min to drive from Oviedo to Grado, while now 12 min with A-63.
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Old February 12th, 2008, 11:22 PM   #732
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What about those extremely narrow emergency lanes? If you get a flat tire, there's no room to pull over.
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Old February 12th, 2008, 11:42 PM   #733
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Yeah, it seems even narrow for Spanish standards (which aren't known for being the widest in Europe).

I have just checked the features of the motorway, and it is 2.5m. wide the exterior emergency lane and 1m. the interior one.
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That's the standard in Spain (2.5m for the exterior shoulder), although they kind of look narrower.

But it must be an illusion caused because there are always gardrails.
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Saves you a lot on heating

What kind of weather can i expect in central Spain in early September? Is it still too hot to drive without airconditioning?
Early september is still very hot in the mediterranean. You might need air con even in october, but that depends on the hour of the day and weather.

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What about those extremely narrow emergency lanes? If you get a flat tire, there's no room to pull over.
They seem normal
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Old February 13th, 2008, 10:57 PM   #736
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You know, having almost 20ºC day after day isn't normal in February
We have around 20ºC here in the summerr, but I still think it's unbearable without AC during sunny days.
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Old February 22nd, 2008, 07:21 PM   #737
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If i read correctly on the Spanish forum, the final piece of the A23 opened today. That means there is a full motorway from Huesca via Zaragoza and Teruel to Valencia!
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Old February 22nd, 2008, 07:29 PM   #738
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You read correctly
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Old February 22nd, 2008, 07:41 PM   #739
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We have around 20ºC here in the summer, but I still think it's unbearable without AC during sunny days.
If you think 20ºC is unbearable without air conditioning, you really have to try to deal with 44ºC for several days in a row... without air conditioning Ah... California in 2002, Ford Festiva and no air conditioning...
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Old February 22nd, 2008, 07:46 PM   #740
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Here you have a complete article about the reforms of the "autovías de primera generación" (the oldest autovías). There are some pictures made when these autovías were built.

http://www.fomento.es/NR/rdonlyres/D...19/Fe32_37.pdf


It's a plan to improve the A-1, A-2 until Zaragoza, A-3 & A-31, A-4 first, and then the A-2 until Barcelona, A-5 and A-6. I think that they should repair the A-62 between Burgos and Valladolid, it's a very old highway too
More info: http://www.urbanity.es/foro/showpost...9&postcount=93
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