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Old August 17th, 2017, 08:02 PM   #7441
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Some things I like about the Spanish signage plans are its - sometimes elaborate - kilometers post and signs like this:

N-234 Viver by European Roads, on Flickr

Other countries don't post such signs. Usually it displays the name of the road, but N-234 has no name so it's just 'Carretera N-234'.
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Old August 17th, 2017, 10:26 PM   #7442
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I know N-234 as Murviedro (i.e. Sagunto) to Burgos road. Simple as that. Although now it only makes sense from Calamocha, as South of there has been replaced by A-23.
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I'm checking out the Spanish Wikipedia and there were also other stretches of "radial" that were opened in the 2000s: A-1 Altsasu-Idiazabal (18.2 km between 2002 and 2003) and the A-2 Cervera-Igualada (41.4 km between 2000 and 2004). I'm not counting stretches that had a parallel tolled motorway alternative.

It's also worth pointing out that the A-52 (Vigo) and the A-31 (Alicante) were prioritized over the A-6 (Coruña) and the A-3 (Valencia). Although Madrid-Valencia could be done entirely on autovía via Almansa.
Don't forget several A-2 sections in Girona, and a A-4 section currently U/C South of Seville.
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Old August 17th, 2017, 10:28 PM   #7443
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I'm checking out the Spanish Wikipedia and there were also other stretches of "radial" that were opened in the 2000s: A-1 Altsasu-Idiazabal (18.2 km between 2002 and 2003) and the A-2 Cervera-Igualada (41.4 km between 2000 and 2004). I'm not counting stretches that had a parallel tolled motorway alternative.
Well, A-2 had AP-2 as an alternative for long-distance traffic, so although being an important route for internal traffic in Catalonia, it wasn't the first priority, given that Zaragoza - Barcelona could be done entirely via a tolled motorway.

As for A-1, I guess the detour via Bilbao (AP-68 + AP-8) was somehow an alternative. Completing A-1 was of course important, but maybe not as urgent as other motorways.
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Old August 18th, 2017, 12:13 AM   #7444
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There was a large gap of A-6 by the time the other radiales were completed. Before 1997, the entire stretch from Benavente to Lugo was missing. It was opened in sections until the final section opened in 2002.
In the A-5 there was another gap and A-2... you could consider that with AP-2+AP-7 there was a link or they need a different motorway. In this case, I remember driving those 1x1 60 km in year 2000
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Old August 18th, 2017, 12:16 AM   #7445
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Some things I like about the Spanish signage plans are its - sometimes elaborate - kilometers post and signs like this:

N-234 Viver by European Roads, on Flickr

Other countries don't post such signs. Usually it displays the name of the road, but N-234 has no name so it's just 'Carretera N-234'.


I would state that, after "State road network", they need to put "road" to enlarge the pannel


(btw, before A-23 I drove from Caminreal to Burgos at one time, longest journey I have done entirely in the N-234)
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Old August 19th, 2017, 01:18 PM   #7446
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V-21

Construction works to widen V-21 to 2x3 between Carraixet and Valencia (4.8 km) were tendered yesterday (estimated cost: € 29 M). It's the only section of V-21 that is still 2x2. The remaining sections between Carraixet and Puçol (AP-7) were widened a few years ago.



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Old August 19th, 2017, 04:54 PM   #7447
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N-330 / A-23 Puerto de Monrepós

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N-330 is quite steep. I filmed it in June, maybe I should make a video of it.
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Old August 19th, 2017, 07:36 PM   #7448
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Autovía A-43

Some photos of A-43, between Atalaya del Cañavate and San Clemente.


1. Typical landscape in Castilla-La Mancha; rolling plains.

A-43-2 by European Roads, on Flickr

2.

A-43-4 by European Roads, on Flickr

3. Vara de Rey.

A-43-7 by European Roads, on Flickr

4. San Clemente-Norte.

A-43-9 by European Roads, on Flickr

5. km 154.

A-43-12 by European Roads, on Flickr

6. There is even a rest area with a fuel station.

A-43-13 by European Roads, on Flickr

7. San Clemente-Sur.

A-43-15 by European Roads, on Flickr

8. The AP-36 interchange. You can drive AP-36 untolled from here in the direction of Albacete. The toll station on AP-36 is just west of this interchange.

A-43-16 by European Roads, on Flickr

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A-43-19 by European Roads, on Flickr
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Old August 19th, 2017, 08:00 PM   #7449
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They'll need to replace all kmposts and renumber every exit of A-43 if they ever build the Merida-Ciudad Real (Royal City? ) section, as currently its km 0 is placed at the latter (which is roughly halfway between Merida and Atalaya del Cañavate).
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I'm thinking of asking YouTube to take this down, it's my area and it's exclusive to me.

Jokes aside, the road at the very summit doesn't exist anymore. A detour is in place now.
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Old August 19th, 2017, 10:40 PM   #7450
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Spain: N-330 and A-23 Huesca to Candanchu.

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Old August 20th, 2017, 01:22 AM   #7451
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Breaking news about A-23 works

Related to last post above, minute 12:00 or so, Arguis cross is down (bridge over little road to Arguis is down indeed), I guess because works for tunnel coming from Huesca.

It is easy to see where it will end there but no where it will start in the southborn. I guess that where a machine is set besides the road.

After the cross, direction north, motorway is a little shorter because these works, not so much.

No changes direction south except a detour in that point and limited to 60
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Old August 22nd, 2017, 12:19 PM   #7452
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N-338

Duplication of N-338 (access to Alicante Airport) between A-70 and N-332:



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Old August 22nd, 2017, 10:37 PM   #7453
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From the Fomento press release, it doesn't say explicitly if it will be upgraded to autovía, just to dual carriageway. Will it be considered and renumbered as autovía A-xx?
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N-roads (not counting Basque Country) can have autovía status. For example: N-322 near Albacete.

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Yes, nonetheless, I consider it kind of out of standard and good practice, which anyway is extremely common on Spanish road network numbering.
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From the Fomento press release, it doesn't say explicitly if it will be upgraded to autovía, just to dual carriageway. Will it be considered and renumbered as autovía A-xx?
According to this post, it will be renumbered as AA-11, so we'll have yet another prefix in our network.
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According to this post, it will be renumbered as AA-11, so we'll have yet another prefix in our network.
No, please, stop...

And what's the meaning? Autovía Alicante? Autovía Aeropuerto?
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I guess it has something to do with Alicante. Given that the natural prefix for urban motorways in Alicante should be "A", and this one is already used by interurban motorways, a new prefix is needed ("AL" is reserved for Almería).

So if they want to be strict, even A-70, A-77 and A-79 (other urban motorways in Alicante) should be renamed using the "AA" prefix, because currently they use the interurban "A" prefix.
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Old August 23rd, 2017, 10:45 AM   #7459
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N-roads (not counting Basque Country) can have autovía status. For example: N-322 near Albacete.
There's also N-II near Zaragoza. The lack of blue signage along it is what makes me not to classify it as a motorway, instead constituting a rare example of an expressway.
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not counting Basque Country ???

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