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Old February 22nd, 2008, 07:49 PM   #741
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If i read correctly on the Spanish forum, the final piece of the A23 opened today. That means there is a full motorway from Huesca via Zaragoza and Teruel to Valencia!
Right. That was one of the most important routes without direct motorway connection.

The construction pace in A-23 has been pretty high in the last years. More than 50km a year.
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Old February 22nd, 2008, 10:26 PM   #742
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Thanks for the pics. Spain is so beautiful

Yeah spain is brilliant and the road quality of some of the roads are top notch .
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Old February 24th, 2008, 01:14 AM   #743
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yeah when we go to morocco i always enjoy the roads in spain the beautifull mountains

last year we went not via madrid but via barcalona and alicante beautifull you see the sea from far away

and why do you see so much abondened cars on the side of the road who've had an accident
i always thought they left it there to warn the people about the dangerous higways between the mountains

only thing i dont like about the highways is if you want to get on i dont know the name for it in english but chris or any dutchman would like to help me (invoegstroken) are very short
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Old February 24th, 2008, 12:06 PM   #744
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acceleration lane or merging lane
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Old February 24th, 2008, 12:37 PM   #745
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and why do you see so much abondened cars on the side of the road who've had an accident
i always thought they left it there to warn the people about the dangerous higways between the mountains
On the side of the highways??

No, we don't use such a shocking traffic campaign. I guess you simply happened to cross Spain in the peak days of summer (with the largest amount of accidents as well), so breakdown vans aren't enough to satisfy the demand. I also remember a long strike in that sector a couple of summers ago, so maybe you got that impression back then.

What it actually happens pretty often and annoys me a lot are abandoned cars parked in the city center for months with a big poster: 'For sale, call xxx'.

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only thing i dont like about the highways is if you want to get on i dont know the name for it in english but chris or any dutchman would like to help me (invoegstroken) are very short
Yeah, in many stretches I don't like them either, although in the new motorways situation has improved a lot.
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Old February 24th, 2008, 12:56 PM   #746
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What it actually happens pretty often and annoys me a lot are abandoned cars parked in the city center for months with a big poster: 'For sale, call xxx'.
Yeah, that used to be a problem too in Rotterdam. Now they have signs that do not allow selling cars on the streets, and they just tow the vehicle away.
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Old February 24th, 2008, 02:23 PM   #747
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I've never seen an abandoned car on a highway
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Old February 24th, 2008, 02:28 PM   #748
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I've seen abandoned cars from highways, but never inside the highways (but near them).

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Old February 24th, 2008, 02:57 PM   #749
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only thing i dont like about the highways is if you want to get on i dont know the name for it in english but chris or any dutchman would like to help me (invoegstroken) are very short

I think those acceleration lanes in Spain are smaller because the amount of traffic used to be lower before. Accelerarion lanes in The Netherlands are very long because of the high amount of traffic. In Spain on several routes there is not many traffic, so you can easely accelarate on the highway.

I agree that most of them should be redesigned or must be longer, because some of them are dangerous.
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Old February 24th, 2008, 03:17 PM   #750
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I've never seen an abandoned car on a highway
You should visit Belgium then

Especially in Wallonia, i have seen a lot of abandoned cars on the motorway. I also seen someone missing the exit, and driving in reverse on the through lanes
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Old February 24th, 2008, 05:11 PM   #751
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I've never seen an abandoned car on a highway
There was 1 in Autovia de Castelldefels in El Prat de Llobregat until 1 year ago, but out from the pavement.
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Old February 24th, 2008, 06:47 PM   #752
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yeah when we go to morocco i always enjoy the roads in spain the beautifull mountains

last year we went not via madrid but via barcalona and alicante beautifull you see the sea from far away

and why do you see so much abondened cars on the side of the road who've had an accident
i always thought they left it there to warn the people about the dangerous higways between the mountains

only thing i dont like about the highways is if you want to get on i dont know the name for it in english but chris or any dutchman would like to help me (invoegstroken) are very short
Well, if you took the A-1&A-4 (via Madrid) or the AP-7 (via Barcelona), no wonder you saw short exit/acceleration lanes; they're three of the oldest highways in Spain. However, the A-1 and A-4 will be improved soon, as I wrote some posts before you. There is also a plan for widening the AP-7 in Catalonia (PDF).

As for the abandoned cars, I've never seen any. Probably it's common in the summer as Stifler said.
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Old February 24th, 2008, 09:09 PM   #753
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Well, if you took the A-1&A-4 (via Madrid) or the AP-7 (via Barcelona), no wonder you saw short exit/acceleration lanes; they're three of the oldest highways in Spain. However, the A-1 and A-4 will be improved soon, as I wrote some posts before you. There is also a plan for widening the AP-7 in Catalonia (PDF).

As for the abandoned cars, I've never seen any. Probably it's common in the summer as Stifler said.
aaaah oke, i see thank you for the when are they gonna begin with improving?

further spanish roads are great i hope soon the moroccan will get like in spain
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Old February 25th, 2008, 03:37 PM   #754
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aaaah oke, i see thank you for the when are they gonna begin with improving?
There is a lot of work to do so it won't be completed soon, but I think that some parts are already (or very soon) being reformed.

I suggest you to take A-1 or A-2 till Madrid, then M-50 till R-5 (I think it's free if you are going to get the AP-41 because both have the same toll company) then AP-41 (~6 or 7€) till Toledo, then CM-42 (or A-42 in the first kms from AP-41) and then A-4. Possibly this route has more kms but R-5/AP-41/CM-42 are very new and without traffic (you can go alone in the autopista or autovía for several kms)

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Cantabria and Asturias!

Viaducto de los Santos (Antes de ensanchar)



Viaducto de Navia





Viaducto de Canero





Puente del Pintor Fierros (o Arco de la Regenta)







Viaducto de San Pedro de la Ribera (antes de ensanchar)







Viaducto del Nalón









Viaducto de Ferrería



Viaductos de Raíces (N-632, Variante de Avilés, en primer plano, la A-8 al fondo)



A-66

Viaducto de Serín



Puente sobre el Nalón



A-64

Viaductos de Lieres



AS-17

Puente atirantado de Sama



Viaducto de El Entrego



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Old February 25th, 2008, 05:11 PM   #756
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Cantabria and Asturias!

Viaducto de los Santos (Antes de ensanchar)




I've never seen anything like this anywhere else!
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Old February 25th, 2008, 05:19 PM   #757
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It's the A8 near Ribadeo
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Old February 25th, 2008, 07:31 PM   #758
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Nice pics. All of them are taken in Asturias. The geography favour the construction of loads of bridges and tunnel, so we have quite a lot.

A8 is not the best example of motorway planning though. 10/15 years ago they improved the old Nacional road building a dozen of big bridges and now most of them cannot be expanded to reach motorway standards so they have to build new ones parallel to the Nacional road.

One of the few bridges expanded


The whole A8 should be completed by 2009, but enviromental and NIMBYs problems have delayed a couple of stretches until 2010 or 2011.
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Old February 25th, 2008, 11:21 PM   #759
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Missing link IP-3/A-52 northern portugal

Hello all,

Does anyone know when the missing link between the IP-3 in Portugal and the Autovia 52 in Spain will be built ? For the moment, the IP-3 comes to a crashing halt at the border, and there's about 10 km of national road before catching up the A-52.
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Another question, this one about the A-8 : how far west is it supposed to go ?

Thanks for your answer.
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Old February 25th, 2008, 11:57 PM   #760
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Does anyone know when the missing link between the IP-3 in Portugal and the Autovia 52 in Spain will be built ? For the moment, the IP-3 comes to a crashing halt at the border, and there's about 10 km of national road before catching up the A-52.
It's already under construction and will be named A-75.

Last news I read expected it to be open in 2009.

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Another question, this one about the A-8 : how far west is it supposed to go ?
It will cover the whole Cantabric coast, so it will go from French border in Irún to Baamonde (province of Lugo). There you can take A-6 to reach La Coruña.
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