daily menu » rate the banner | guess the city | one on oneforums map | privacy policy | DMCA | news magazine | posting guidelines

Go Back   SkyscraperCity > Infrastructure and Mobility Forums > Highways & Autobahns

Highways & Autobahns All about automobility



Global Announcement

As a general reminder, please respect others and respect copyrights. Go here to familiarize yourself with our posting policy.


Reply

 
Thread Tools
Old August 21st, 2008, 12:43 AM   #961
OriK
Usuario Registrado
 
OriK's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 721
Likes (Received): 173

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cicerón View Post
Don't trust on Google Earth/Maps when it comes to Spanish roads, because some may appear as finished when they're still under construction.
This is becoming a problem, there are a lot of new roads and the gps's systems/online maps aren't very accurate with them, they signal roads not yet opened as opened and some opened roads doesn't appear.

Also there are some zones on toll motorways which are free of charge and not all are well on gps (so it makes you drive more kilometers unnecessarily, and sometimes on worse roads).

I heard on the news some weeks ago that this problem has forced to distribute an information leaflet on the toll booths of the AP-1 helping drivers to bypass the gps malfunction.

This is an important problem but at least new motorways are usually asociated to a conventional road (sometimes the motorway is an upgrade of the previous road, and other times is parallel, the most common is a mixed solution for free motorways and parallel or not associated for toll motorways) and if you understand the signaling you can continue without problems.

Bye²
OriK no está en línea   Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
Old August 22nd, 2008, 06:35 AM   #962
Aokromes
Patatero Inside
 
Aokromes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Siberia-Gasteiz
Posts: 8,022
Likes (Received): 2658

Living near the A-1 and U/C zone of AP-1 i recomend to to forget of the A-1 from Alsasua to San Sebastian and use A-10 from Alsasua to Irurzun and A-15 from Irurzun to Andoain and then A-1 to San Sebastian.

__________________
Si quieres compatibilidad con estandares y seguridad, ¿pq recomiendas Firefox y no Opera?
If you want compatibility with standards and security, ¿why do you recomend firefox and not Opera?

The only truly secure system is one that is powered off, cast in a block of concrete and sealed in a lead-lined room with armed guards - and even then I have my doubts. Gene Spafford.
I am Basque, not Russian, the "Siberia" thing is a joke.
Aokromes no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old September 10th, 2008, 03:01 PM   #963
ChrisZwolle
Road user
 
ChrisZwolle's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Zwolle
Posts: 43,631
Likes (Received): 19426

Good lord:
ChrisZwolle no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old September 10th, 2008, 04:37 PM   #964
Timon91
Error
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: just outside Germany
Posts: 5,783
Likes (Received): 46

What a horrible sign
__________________
My Flickr account.
Some of my photoseries: Northern Ireland, Prague, Boston, Alaska part 1, 2, 3, Smoggy Moscow, Warsaw, Wrocław, Kiev, Donetsk, Odessa and Chişinău.
Timon91 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old September 10th, 2008, 05:40 PM   #965
ChrisZwolle
Road user
 
ChrisZwolle's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Zwolle
Posts: 43,631
Likes (Received): 19426

"Hey, why don't we just put all road numbers in metro Madrid on one sign?"
ChrisZwolle no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old September 10th, 2008, 05:49 PM   #966
Timon91
Error
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: just outside Germany
Posts: 5,783
Likes (Received): 46

Saves material --> saves money. Nice issue for the dutch 'bezuinigingen'
__________________
My Flickr account.
Some of my photoseries: Northern Ireland, Prague, Boston, Alaska part 1, 2, 3, Smoggy Moscow, Warsaw, Wrocław, Kiev, Donetsk, Odessa and Chişinău.
Timon91 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old September 10th, 2008, 06:09 PM   #967
Morsue
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Stockholm
Posts: 1,282
Likes (Received): 46

And it says "todas direcciones" on the other sign

Last edited by Morsue; September 10th, 2008 at 06:29 PM.
Morsue no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old September 10th, 2008, 10:03 PM   #968
Cicerón
Espere verde
 
Cicerón's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: En el obscuro jardín del manicomio
Posts: 3,876
Likes (Received): 53

Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisZwolle View Post
"Hey, why don't we just put all road numbers in metro Madrid on one sign?"
It's "funny" when you're arriving to Madrid on a radial highway (the "A-" and "R-" ones) and, before the junction with one of the ring roads, you can see two sings, each one with half of the highways of all Madrid metropolitan area.
Cicerón no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old September 12th, 2008, 12:19 PM   #969
runi
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 47
Likes (Received): 5

I guess it might be too confusing for some people, but I find it really useful in a place with such a big infrastructure. You have to understand this isn't a common city So when I have to choose a specific highway, I appreciate to see it in the signs since the beginning
runi no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old September 12th, 2008, 12:21 PM   #970
ChrisZwolle
Road user
 
ChrisZwolle's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Zwolle
Posts: 43,631
Likes (Received): 19426

Well, I also believe road numbering here makes more sense than destinations. Like if you come from A1 and you see a sign with "Toledo" or "Badajoz", which route will it take? You have no idea.
ChrisZwolle no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old September 12th, 2008, 12:31 PM   #971
runi
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 47
Likes (Received): 5

Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisZwolle View Post
Well, I also believe road numbering here makes more sense than destinations. Like if you come from A1 and you see a sign with "Toledo" or "Badajoz", which route will it take? You have no idea.
True, for example in this case, coming from A1 you'll see some signs indicating M-30 and M-40 so firstly you have to choose the ring you want to take and once you're there you start seeing other signs, both local (streets, squares, monuments, stations, etc.) and other cities' signs. Indicating just Toledo wouldn't be enough since you have the free and toll highways to go there so it's important to pay attention to the number
runi no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old September 12th, 2008, 10:53 PM   #972
rpc08
Registered User
 
rpc08's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Serra da Estrela [P]
Posts: 6,285
Likes (Received): 1006

Quote:
Originally Posted by runi View Post
I guess it might be too confusing for some people, but I find it really useful in a place with such a big infrastructure. You have to understand this isn't a common city So when I have to choose a specific highway, I appreciate to see it in the signs since the beginning
I think that signs are done specially for people who doesn't know the city...
__________________
rpc08 @ SSC-PT
rpc08 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old September 18th, 2008, 07:41 PM   #973
Cicerón
Espere verde
 
Cicerón's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: En el obscuro jardín del manicomio
Posts: 3,876
Likes (Received): 53

Finally the first works for refurbishing the radial autovías have begun

The first stretch has been the one between Calatayud and Alfajarín (93.3 km) in the A-2. They have waited for the Expo2008 in Saragossa to end before starting the works, but still there was a 12 km long traffic jam around Saragossa yesterday.



Source (in Spanish): http://www.heraldo.es/index.php/mod....lcategoria.300
Cicerón no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old September 18th, 2008, 08:38 PM   #974
ChrisZwolle
Road user
 
ChrisZwolle's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Zwolle
Posts: 43,631
Likes (Received): 19426

Is there one lane traffic for 93.3 kilometers continuous? Looks frustrating to me.
ChrisZwolle no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old September 18th, 2008, 09:41 PM   #975
arriaca
BANNED
 
arriaca's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 5,983
Likes (Received): 91

Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisZwolle View Post
Is there one lane traffic for 93.3 kilometers continuous? Looks frustrating to me.
No, only some kilometers. I suposse, it depens of the works Now are 12 km
arriaca no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old September 18th, 2008, 09:42 PM   #976
Cicerón
Espere verde
 
Cicerón's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: En el obscuro jardín del manicomio
Posts: 3,876
Likes (Received): 53

Not for 93.3 km, but for some km, depending on the works they're doing. Keep in mind that some parts of the stretch only need new asphalt, but some others need a totally new route, so I guess they aren't going to cut a lane for 93.3 km at the same time.
Cicerón no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old September 19th, 2008, 04:13 PM   #977
Cicerón
Espere verde
 
Cicerón's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: En el obscuro jardín del manicomio
Posts: 3,876
Likes (Received): 53

The A-601 Valladolid-Segovia (104.6 km) has been opened today.



http://www.jcyl.es/scsiau/Satellite/...pdf/_?asm=jcyl
Cicerón no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old September 19th, 2008, 04:30 PM   #978
ChrisZwolle
Road user
 
ChrisZwolle's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Zwolle
Posts: 43,631
Likes (Received): 19426

Isn't that the CL-601?

Now there are two connections between Madrid and Valladolid, but neither are direct, the A-6/AP-6/A-62 via Tordesillas or the A-6/AP-6/AP-61/CL-601 via Segovia. Are there plans to rebuild the N-601 to a motorway?
ChrisZwolle no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old September 19th, 2008, 09:14 PM   #979
Cicerón
Espere verde
 
Cicerón's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: En el obscuro jardín del manicomio
Posts: 3,876
Likes (Received): 53

Yes. The old road N-601 Collado Villalba-Segovia-Valladolid-León was renamed as M-601 in Madrid and CL-601 in Castile and Leon, only until Valladolid. The rest is still the N-601. Now the stretch from Segovia to Valladolid it's called A-601.

Between Valladolid and León you have the A-60, but only 16.6 km (from Valladolid to the airport) are under construction currently.
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autov%C...olid-Le%C3%B3n
Cicerón no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old September 19th, 2008, 09:18 PM   #980
ChrisZwolle
Road user
 
ChrisZwolle's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Zwolle
Posts: 43,631
Likes (Received): 19426

So A-601 is the new number for CL-601? Google Earth still displays it that way, and to be frank, it makes more sense in the numbering system. A would mean either Andalucía, Aragón or Autovía, but I thought Autovías are only in the 1/2 digit area.
ChrisZwolle no está en línea   Reply With Quote


Reply

Tags
autopista, carreteras, españa, highways, motorways, road, spain, spain in the world, via rapida

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Related topics on SkyscraperCity


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 02:51 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2018 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2018 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

SkyscraperCity ☆ In Urbanity We trust ☆ about us | privacy policy | DMCA policy

tech management by Sysprosium