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Old February 7th, 2009, 11:01 PM   #1181
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I heard that this table has been changed, now the fine starts at 121Km/h (or 41, 51, 61, 71, 81, ...) AFTER subtracting the error's margin of the radar.

In example... if you go at 135 and the radar detects 140, and this radar error margin is 10% you'll pay the fine for 126Km/h.

I THINK that before if you were at 135 and the radar detects 140, you wouldn't have fine because they would send you a 126Km/h fine and with the table, you shouldn't have fine.

City halls and Cataluña are using other tables.

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Edit: And they are radars with less than 10% of error margin
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Old February 9th, 2009, 02:13 AM   #1182
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I like the new autopistas that the spaniards opened man!! look at the country side !! is pleasant I think..!!
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Old February 15th, 2009, 10:32 PM   #1183
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The Mallorca road plan 2009-2024 has been already aproved, and published

http://www.conselldemallorca.net/?id...=536&id_lang=1

The most interesting part of it is that it offers data of traffic for the whole island, 2006

http://www.conselldemallorca.net/med...exdiagnosi.pdf

Ma-20 has the local record, with 162.245 vehicles a day (IMD)



Ranking. Dailly traffic IMD in the highways or roads in Palma's Metro area, 2006. PK means kilometric point, or where the station is.

Ma - 20 (pk 3,1 - 4,7) 162.245
Ma - 19 (pk 1,7 - 2.9) 120.904
Ma - 13 (pk 0) 97.896
Ma - 11 (pk 3,2 - 4.5) 76.494
Ma - 1 (pk 6,2 - 12,6) 75.592
Ma - 1100 (pk 3,1 - 4,3) 57.236
Ma - 1013 (pk 0) 33.170
Ma - 15 (pk 2,4 - 4,6) 34.332

Taking into account that this data is a bit old (traffic grew 4% yearly) today we could have 3 roads carrying more than 100.000 vehicles a day (at some measuring station)
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Old February 16th, 2009, 07:40 PM   #1184
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New A-1 / AP-1 link u/c.







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Old February 16th, 2009, 10:19 PM   #1185
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Where exactly is that? Can you show it on a map? When are the works expected to be finished?
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Old February 16th, 2009, 11:21 PM   #1186
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This new part of the AP-1/A-1 is close to Arminon and the junction with the AP-68. I don't know when this work will be finished, but when I passed there last month there was still a little work left.
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Old February 17th, 2009, 12:50 AM   #1187
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Old February 23rd, 2009, 06:21 PM   #1188
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The new A-4 in Despeñaperros, u/c.

Location: http://maps.google.es/maps?f=q&sourc...23596&t=k&z=14

(See in satellite view, the road map is not accurate).


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Así estaban hoy las obras de la nueva A-4 en Despeñaperros:














Thanks to Etchelion (Urbanity.es).
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Old February 23rd, 2009, 06:58 PM   #1189
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Wow, they are replacing that spectacular though substandard piece of Autovía? Cool!

But would it be necessary if they build a parallel AP-42 from Toledo to Cordoba?
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Old February 23rd, 2009, 07:25 PM   #1190
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Yes . I have found a map, also by Etchelion (Urbanity.es).

Yellow means tunnel, blue means viaduct.

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:ok: Muchas gracias PacoPaco por los planos y la información. Ahora ya ha quedado todo claro.

El dato que nos faltaba y que hacía que no cuadrase nada era el de la modificación del proyecto de la calzada norte desde Santa Elena al túnel de Despeñaperros.


Así que con los datos de la adjudicación de la calzada sur, aproximadamente la ubicación de cada uno de los viaductos y túneles será esta:

- Venta de Cárdenas - Enlace de Aldeaquemada




- Enlace de Aldeaquemada - Santa Elena



The AP-41 from Puertollano to Córdoba was rejected by the Ministry of Environment. Now they are doing another project more to the West, from Almadén to the future A-81.
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Old February 23rd, 2009, 10:11 PM   #1191
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it is legendary part of spanish motorways
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Old February 24th, 2009, 12:31 PM   #1192
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What are the traffic amounts on M40 and M50 ?
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Old February 24th, 2009, 01:02 PM   #1193
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it is legendary part of spanish motorways
Motorways? With that curvature it looks more like two one-way mountain roads...

When is the anticipated completion of the new part? I'm planning on doing the A-4 this summer and would like to drive the old road before it becomes a local road.
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Old February 24th, 2009, 01:11 PM   #1194
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Impressive project! I hope it won't destroy the landscape too much though.

What will be the approximate driving time saved with the new stretch?
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Old February 24th, 2009, 02:09 PM   #1195
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What about R1, I saw it under construction in map. Is traffic on A1 really that bad ?
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Old February 24th, 2009, 03:38 PM   #1196
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There are quite some urban developments north of Madrid. I guess they want to separate through and commuter traffic.
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Old February 24th, 2009, 04:30 PM   #1197
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Does anyone know what has become of the proyectos de construcción for these two projects?

12-SO-3090: Autovía del Duero (A-11). Enlace de Santiuste-Variante de Burgo de Osma

12-LC-5720: Autovía Lugo-Santiago (A-54). Tramo: Lavacolla-Arzúa Oeste

Both of these contracts were advertised on 30 December and have closing dates of 4 March. The Ministerio de Fomento has put construction documentation online for all of its contracts since mid-June 2008 except for these two. For a while there were files available for 12-LC-5720, but these were actually the documentation for 12-HU-5720 (same key root, wrong province), which had been uploaded by mistake. Since the closing date for these two contracts is just eight days away, I am wondering if we will ever see the documentation.
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Old February 25th, 2009, 03:31 PM   #1198
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it is legendary part of spanish motorways
Legendary, but a pain in the ass for those who travel often from/to Andalusia.

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What are the traffic amounts on M40 and M50 ?
I've only found data about the M-30 and M-40. The M-40 seems to have over 100k vehicles/day.

Anyway here you have the map: http://www.madridmovilidad.es/imd/planos_data.asp

Click on a smaller map and then "Leyenda" to know what every colour means

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Motorways? With that curvature it looks more like two one-way mountain roads...
Indeed. The current A-4 through Despeñaperros is formed by the old national road N-IV (used for the southbound traffic in the North side and for the northbound traffic in the South side, you can see it's more curvy) and a newer carriageway built in 1991.

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When is the anticipated completion of the new part? I'm planning on doing the A-4 this summer and would like to drive the old road before it becomes a local road.
I don't think it's finished until 2010.

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Impressive project! I hope it won't destroy the landscape too much though.

What will be the approximate driving time saved with the new stretch?
You save about 3 km, but considering that some stretches of the current road are limited to 50 km/h...

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What about R1, I saw it under construction in map. Is traffic on A1 really that bad ?
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There are quite some urban developments north of Madrid. I guess they want to separate through and commuter traffic.
Yes, the A-1 gets usually jammed because, unlike the A-6, it's 2x2 from Alcobendas.
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Old March 1st, 2009, 07:33 PM   #1199
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A-1 is 2(3)x3x3x2(3) from M-30 to Alcobendas, then 3x3 until M-100 junction and then again 2x3x3x2 until Santo Domingo's exit. Then it gets from a 5 lane road to a 2 lane road, which causes the road to get jammed. A-1 is being extended to a 3x3 road until San Agustín de Guadalix town, and I think they are also building side roads, so it would be again 2x3x3x2. There was a project of creating new side roads and bus lanes in A-1 (and on every A road in Madrid) which should end with the lack of side roads between Alcobendas and M-100 (or at least between Alcobendas and M-50), but no works have been announced yet.
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Old March 1st, 2009, 08:39 PM   #1200
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http://www.youtube.com/user/josansepartederisa

This guy has a lot of videos from the Sevilla area.
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