daily menu » rate the banner | guess the city | one on oneforums map | privacy policy | DMCA | news magazine | posting guidelines

Go Back   SkyscraperCity > Infrastructure and Mobility Forums > Highways & Autobahns

Highways & Autobahns All about automobility



Global Announcement

As a general reminder, please respect others and respect copyrights. Go here to familiarize yourself with our posting policy.


Reply

 
Thread Tools
Old June 19th, 2009, 06:01 PM   #1321
Majestic
Systematic Chaos
 
Majestic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: POZnan* (PL)
Posts: 805
Likes (Received): 26

What's that? A toll station in the middle of a barrio? (Madrid, not far from M40/A4 interchnge).

Majestic no está en línea   Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
Old June 19th, 2009, 08:15 PM   #1322
Cicerón
Espere verde
 
Cicerón's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: En el obscuro jardín del manicomio
Posts: 3,876
Likes (Received): 53

It's the entrance to Mercamadrid, a big wholesale market.
Cicerón no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old June 19th, 2009, 08:16 PM   #1323
ChrisZwolle
Road user
 
ChrisZwolle's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Zwolle
Posts: 43,596
Likes (Received): 19389

You have to pay tolls to enter that market?

I thought it was some kind of industrial area. (warehousing, distribution etc.)
ChrisZwolle no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old June 19th, 2009, 08:35 PM   #1324
amagaldu
Registered (trade) User
 
amagaldu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Germany
Posts: 2,899
Likes (Received): 61

Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisZwolle View Post
You have to pay tolls to enter that market?

I thought it was some kind of industrial area. (warehousing, distribution etc.)
yes, you have to..

http://www.abc.es/hemeroteca/histori...995453439.html
amagaldu no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old June 19th, 2009, 09:46 PM   #1325
zazo
BANNED
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: SKY
Posts: 1,255
Likes (Received): 132

Yes, they get lots of money (it's the biggest market in the world after the Tokyo fish market)
zazo no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old June 21st, 2009, 02:37 AM   #1326
amagaldu
Registered (trade) User
 
amagaldu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Germany
Posts: 2,899
Likes (Received): 61

really..?

biggest in what sense..? in area, carried goods, sales..?
amagaldu no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old June 21st, 2009, 11:58 PM   #1327
msz2
Registered User
 
msz2's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Kielce; Civitas Kielcensis; Poland; European Socialist Union
Posts: 4,176
Likes (Received): 57

I'am really impresed by what I can see on this Spanish thread. I have always thought that Spaniards are lazy people of the south (siesta, maniana and these issues), but what you have done on field of road and railway infrastructure is very good thing, so big respect from Poland.
__________________
"The European Union is doomed to failure because it is something crazy, utopian project, a monument of pride leftist intellectuals."
- Margaret Thatcher
msz2 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old June 22nd, 2009, 04:42 AM   #1328
LtBk
Registered User
 
LtBk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Greater Baltimore
Posts: 3,103
Likes (Received): 3707

From what I read, siesta doesn't apply to most of Spain.
LtBk no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old June 22nd, 2009, 03:56 PM   #1329
zazo
BANNED
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: SKY
Posts: 1,255
Likes (Received): 132

Quote:
Originally Posted by amagaldu View Post
really..?

biggest in what sense..? in area, carried goods, sales..?
In 2008 was the biggest of Europe in every sense, the second of the world in sales, and its fish market is also the second biggest of the world in number of carried goods, sales and area after Tokio

The market city and the city :




Quote:
Originally Posted by msz2 View Post
I'am really impresed by what I can see on this Spanish thread. I have always thought that Spaniards are lazy people of the south (siesta, maniana and these issues), but what you have done on field of road and railway infrastructure is very good thing, so big respect from Poland.
Spain is not so rich becuase of nothing... in 2007 it had the 7º biggest GDP, it's a topic from tourists who go to the coast in summer, but what do they expect to find in the spanish coast? everybody is in holidays there!
zazo no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old June 22nd, 2009, 04:33 PM   #1330
ChrisZwolle
Road user
 
ChrisZwolle's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Zwolle
Posts: 43,596
Likes (Received): 19389

Here's that exit:
[IMG]http://i40.************/jj8m5f.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i44.************/9abmvc.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i41.************/2zq4qc1.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i39.************/2e5i7om.jpg[/IMG]
ChrisZwolle no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old June 24th, 2009, 05:54 PM   #1331
Cicerón
Espere verde
 
Cicerón's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: En el obscuro jardín del manicomio
Posts: 3,876
Likes (Received): 53

Quote:
Originally Posted by LtBk View Post
From what I read, siesta doesn't apply to most of Spain.
Althought it's true that the more to the south in Spain you go the more popular siesta is, it's more a question of age and rural culture.

BTW, part of the A-15/SO-20 was opened yesterday:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Whitetower Soria View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by riveratorres View Post
Pues finálmente se ha abierto a las 22:46 en sentido Soria-Lubia y a las 22:52 aproximadamente en sentido inverso: He tenido la suerte de "inaugurarla" , ya que ibamos desde Soria justo detrás de la Guardia civil y los coches de los operarios que abrían paso al tráfico (a velocidad reducida, eso sí) :-)...Una vez en Lubia, y de regreso a Soria, la he vuelto a probar (sin la limitación de velocidad anterior, ya que llevaba unos minutos abierta) y en general está muy bien resuelto el enlace con la N-111 (junto al pk 215). Como única pega, quizás me ha parecido escasa la distancia entre la incorporación de la carretera de Quintana y Fuentepinilla hasta el desvío de Soria-Sur y la circunvalación viniendo de Madrid.....Hay que reducir la velocidad algo antes e incorporarse con tiempo al carril adecuado, ya que los últimos 350 metros en los que finaliza la autovía se pueden hacer cortos.
Adjunto tres imágenes tomadas ayer día 22 en el alto de El Viso:







Salu2.


And it seems that the A-44 (south of Granada province) was finished last month:



I'd like to drive a motorbike there
Cicerón no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old June 24th, 2009, 10:55 PM   #1332
Morsue
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Stockholm
Posts: 1,282
Likes (Received): 46

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cicerón View Post
And it seems that the A-44 (south of Granada province) was finished last month:



I'd like to drive a motorbike there
Indeed it seems to be that way:

Morsue no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old June 24th, 2009, 11:15 PM   #1333
Mateusz
Registered User
 
Mateusz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Sheffield
Posts: 6,536
Likes (Received): 235

Spain made a great choice by choosing massive investments into infrastructure

Who started it all ?
Mateusz no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old June 25th, 2009, 02:40 PM   #1334
Cicerón
Espere verde
 
Cicerón's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: En el obscuro jardín del manicomio
Posts: 3,876
Likes (Received): 53

The socialist government in 1982-1996 made a big investment in infrastructure, first with the first-generation autovías (which are being reformed now) and then with the high speed rail. Fortunately that policy has been followed by all the succesive governments.
Cicerón no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old June 25th, 2009, 10:28 PM   #1335
nerdly_dood
Possibly Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 951
Likes (Received): 42

American highways haven't had that kind of expansion since the Interstate Highway Act in the 1950s, so naturally our highways are nearing the end of their useful lifetime, unless we can find a way to pump billions of dollars into repairing and expanding them...

I took a trip to Spain in March 2008 and for the most part the highways were as good as the best of American highways - the pavement was in good condition, the lines on the road hadn't been repainted so much they were cracking and coming off, there were very few visual impediments... etc. Great roads...
__________________
A government's primary duty is to protect and advance the three most fundamental human rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. These rights imply the additional right to prudently guarded stupidity.

Socialism never took root in America because the poor there saw themselves not as an exploited proletariat, but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires. -John Steinbeck
nerdly_dood no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 3rd, 2009, 04:57 PM   #1336
OriK
Usuario Registrado
 
OriK's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 721
Likes (Received): 173

The A-42 (Autovía de Madrid-Toledo) is going to be upgraded.

It's one of the busiest motorways on the south of Madrid. They are going to make it underground between M-45 and M-50 and it'll have between 3 and 4 lanes (at least between Madrid and Parla) wider than the current lanes + 2 service lanes (in each direction) + 2 BUS-VAO lanes (like in the A-6, reversible lanes that can only be accessed by bus or driving a car with X or more people inside, this BUS-VAO will be from Madrid city to the limit between Madrid and Toledo).

This means that will be up to 8 lanes available in rush hours and up to 6 lanes in peak hours.

The works will last 30 months :S:S I wish they open the toll motorway for free while the worst part of the works...

http://www.europapress.es/madrid/not...702061541.html
http://www.20minutos.es/noticia/2249...metros/Getafe/
OriK no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 5th, 2009, 02:17 PM   #1337
christos-greece
Moderator!
 
christos-greece's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 176,627
Likes (Received): 244485

That new section of this motorway, is really great...
Quote:
It's a new section, or a new motorway?
__________________
Urban Showcase: Athens Kalamata Trikala Thessaloniki
Cityscapes: Paris Barcelona Dubai, U.A.E. Monte Carlo, Monaco
General photography: Castles of France - Chateau de France and, since May of '08: Greece!
christos-greece no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 5th, 2009, 02:19 PM   #1338
Mateusz
Registered User
 
Mateusz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Sheffield
Posts: 6,536
Likes (Received): 235

Is there any map showing future plans ?

They seem infinite at the moment
Mateusz no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 5th, 2009, 02:50 PM   #1339
Cicerón
Espere verde
 
Cicerón's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: En el obscuro jardín del manicomio
Posts: 3,876
Likes (Received): 53

Quote:
Originally Posted by OriK View Post
The A-42 (Autovía de Madrid-Toledo) is going to be upgraded.

It's one of the busiest motorways on the south of Madrid. They are going to make it underground between M-45 and M-50 and it'll have between 3 and 4 lanes (at least between Madrid and Parla) wider than the current lanes + 2 service lanes (in each direction) + 2 BUS-VAO lanes (like in the A-6, reversible lanes that can only be accessed by bus or driving a car with X or more people inside, this BUS-VAO will be from Madrid city to the limit between Madrid and Toledo).

This means that will be up to 8 lanes available in rush hours and up to 6 lanes in peak hours.

The works will last 30 months :S:S I wish they open the toll motorway for free while the worst part of the works...

http://www.europapress.es/madrid/not...702061541.html
http://www.20minutos.es/noticia/2249...metros/Getafe/

This is how it will look in the future:

Quote:
Originally Posted by PacoPaco View Post



http://www.urbanity.es/foro/infraest...tml#post268236




Quote:
Originally Posted by christos-greece View Post
That new section of this motorway, is really great...

It's a new section, or a new motorway?
It's the blue part of the SO-20. The A-15 and A-11 are under construction.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Whitetower Soria View Post


Quote:
Originally Posted by Mateusz View Post
Is there any map showing future plans ?

They seem infinite at the moment
A forumer from Urbanity.es made this map, showing motorways finished, under construction, in project or being refurbished. It's quite big and it's in Spanish though.

Quote:
Originally Posted by PacoPaco View Post
Buenas a todos.

Tras muchos meses de espera, he decidido completar los cambios que ha habido en estos meses y que van a haber durante el mes de Julio para finalizar la versión segunda del 2009. A partir de ahora, he decidido que la nomenclatura del mapa sea el año y la subversión en el mismo año.

Como novedad he añadido, el estado administrativo de le reforma de las autovías de primera generación. Y bastantes cambios en las autovías autonómicas y estatales. Además de eso, he añadido la licencia Creative Commons para dejar constancia del ámbito de uso de este mapa ( y en unas semanas del de ferrocarriles ).


Espero que os guste y sobre todo, espero que haya muchas puntualizaciones, ya que este mapa es de los más complejos de realizar, ya que existen muchas infraestructuras viarias en marcha o estudio y muy poca información. Sin más, podéis descargarlo pulsado aquí y en la ventana que os aparecerá luego pulsando "Click here to start download"

RNA2009V2.jpg





La versión que os he colgado es la de 4 megas, si queréis la versión de 10 megas con mayor calidad, para imprimir, pulsad aquí:

RNA2009V2.jpg

:piruloazul:
Cicerón no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 5th, 2009, 03:07 PM   #1340
Mateusz
Registered User
 
Mateusz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Sheffield
Posts: 6,536
Likes (Received): 235

Great thanks Images are enough in this case
Mateusz no está en línea   Reply With Quote


Reply

Tags
autopista, carreteras, españa, highways, motorways, road, spain, spain in the world, via rapida

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Related topics on SkyscraperCity


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 04:04 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2018 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2018 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

SkyscraperCity ☆ In Urbanity We trust ☆ about us | privacy policy | DMCA policy

tech management by Sysprosium