[E] Spanish Autopistas and Autovías - Page 7

geno · December 21st, 2006, 12:05 AM

I have a BIG question . I like this project but i DON"t LIKE the ideea of demolishing vicente calderon . SO I wanna ask someone who really knows when they gonna demolish the stadium>??????????????????????I love atletico and calderon but i didn't have the time to visit it and I dont want to miss it . I heard that atletico will play in stadium olimpic (peineta) is that stadium already built????????????? Do you think is tha last seson for atletico in calderon????????????

valhar2000 · December 22nd, 2006, 05:23 PM

The deal for the sale fo the Calderon is not yet made; in fact, that particular part of the project is paralized right now, and the cars that use the M30 will use the current track to drive through that part of the highway.

The team is expected to play its games in the Peineta until their new stadium (which will be built further away from the center of Madrid, in a less expensive piece of land) is complete. The difference between what they get from the sale and what they spend on the new stadium will be used to pay the team's debt.

Since the price of the land the stadium stands on is so high, the Local Government will sell about half of the acquired land to developers, in order to offset the cost of the land while still leaving enough space to dig the tunnels and build a park.

So, it seems, there is no way to save your beloved stadium. Look not, however, to the past, and cast instead your gaze toward the bright future that awaits the Team in its new home!

oduguy1999 · January 6th, 2007, 10:45 PM

WOW, these projects blow me away. I love Madrid, its so dynamic and exciting. Definitely a Project befitting a top 8 global economy.

newyorkrunaway1 · January 7th, 2007, 01:58 AM

this is an extraordinary project!!! I would love if the US would build projects like this.

!!!

AdemA · January 10th, 2007, 02:13 PM

Thats the new Highway:

Big photo by BPT:

Satelite drawings:

Some more renders...

Desde Galdakao direccion Muskiz

Sobrevolando la Supersur, desde Muskiz hasta Galdakao:

Ampliacion del puente de La Arena, A8:

Enlace Puerto Bilbao

Enlace Santurtzi-Eje del Ballonti

Enlace Portugalete

Desdoblamiento A8-Supersur (Fase1) y union con Fase 3

Pasando por El Regato

Conexion con Corredor del Cadagua

Peñascal, entrada al centro de Bilbao por La Peña

Ampliacion de la A8 y conexion con A68

Arrigorriaga

Hacia Galdakao y Erletxe conexion con A8 y Corredor del Txorierri

Y desde aqui, hacia durango

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Nephasto · January 10th, 2007, 04:11 PM

Those aerial views are very beautifull but much more dificult to understund than a simple map.

I still don't have it clear the conexions between the supersur and other freeways like the AP-68 or A8.

For example, will it be possible to enter the supersur in the direction of Galdakao for those who come from the AP-68(from the south)?

Anyway, it looks like a great project!

BPT · January 11th, 2007, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nephasto

. . .
I still don't have it clear the conexions between the supersur and other freeways like the AP-68 or A8.

For example, will it be possible to enter the supersur in the direction of Galdakao for those who come from the AP-68(from the south)?
. . .

It won't be possible. You must use the AP1 highway betwen Vitoria and Eibar to go to France

Next week I'll have the proyect in my hands and will post some images and plains in the Eusko. See you there.

Nephasto · January 11th, 2007, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BPT

It won't be possible. You must use the AP1 highway betwen Vitoria and Eibar to go to France

They really don't want to make a decent conexion between the AP-68 and the A-8 in that direction. Hehe!

Anyway, I'm looking forward to the opening of the AP-1, as it will certanly be the best route to leave our peninsula.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BPT

Next week I'll have the proyect in my hands and will post some images and plains in the Eusko. See you there.

Nicolás · January 13th, 2007, 01:03 PM

GC-1, the longest motorway on the Island of Gran Canaria, a Spanish island ~200 kms west of the southern part of Morocco-

From south to north ~65 kms, taken by me this January:

***ChrisZwolle*** · January 13th, 2007, 01:14 PM

Very nice pics. I saw them already at the other forums

Las Palmas is quite big, i thought it had some 700.000 in agglomeration or so.

Gilgamesh · January 13th, 2007, 01:53 PM

Nice. looks like it has almost constant curves, whats the speed limit?

Nicolás · January 13th, 2007, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gilgamesh

Nice. looks like it has almost constant curves, whats the speed limit?

max. 120 kph, sometimes 80-100

Nephasto · January 14th, 2007, 03:31 PM

Great photo's!

It seems that Gran Canária has an excelent network of freeway, considering it's a small island.

Verso · January 14th, 2007, 05:15 PM

Cool! I like motorways on small islands. Las Palmas, here I come!

valhar2000 · January 24th, 2007, 09:35 AM

Well, there is the Boston Big Dig, which is similar but even larger. They did take 20 years to do it, though, which sucks.

SkyLerm · January 24th, 2007, 09:42 PM

I've seen that in a discoverys' documentary, that was really impressive and huge work, i love that kind of construction sites

valhar2000 · January 26th, 2007, 12:08 AM

Well, yes, but ours is cooler. For no particular reason; it just is.

SkyLerm · January 27th, 2007, 03:10 PM

Nice stuff!!

balasto · February 4th, 2007, 05:32 PM

Entrance of one recently opened strech (cut and cover):

SkyLerm · February 9th, 2007, 03:48 PM

Great picture, actually there are 3 tunnel stretches opened since last wednesday.

December 21st, 2006, 12:05 AM	#121
geno Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: cluj metropolitan area Posts: 26 Likes (Received): 0	VICENTE CALDERON I have a BIG question . I like this project but i DON"t LIKE the ideea of demolishing vicente calderon . SO I wanna ask someone who really knows when they gonna demolish the stadium>??????????????????????I love atletico and calderon but i didn't have the time to visit it and I dont want to miss it . I heard that atletico will play in stadium olimpic (peineta) is that stadium already built????????????? Do you think is tha last seson for atletico in calderon????????????

December 22nd, 2006, 05:23 PM	#122
valhar2000 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 213 Likes (Received): 0	The deal for the sale fo the Calderon is not yet made; in fact, that particular part of the project is paralized right now, and the cars that use the M30 will use the current track to drive through that part of the highway. The team is expected to play its games in the Peineta until their new stadium (which will be built further away from the center of Madrid, in a less expensive piece of land) is complete. The difference between what they get from the sale and what they spend on the new stadium will be used to pay the team's debt. Since the price of the land the stadium stands on is so high, the Local Government will sell about half of the acquired land to developers, in order to offset the cost of the land while still leaving enough space to dig the tunnels and build a park. So, it seems, there is no way to save your beloved stadium. Look not, however, to the past, and cast instead your gaze toward the bright future that awaits the Team in its new home! Last edited by valhar2000; December 26th, 2006 at 12:06 PM. Reason: Spelling

January 6th, 2007, 10:45 PM	#123
oduguy1999 The Big Easy Forever Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: New Orleans Posts: 368 Likes (Received): 1	WOW, these projects blow me away. I love Madrid, its so dynamic and exciting. Definitely a Project befitting a top 8 global economy. __________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. -Dr. Seuss

January 10th, 2007, 02:13 PM	#125
AdemA ₪ ø lll •o. Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 18,178 Likes (Received): 58	Bilbao supersur Autopista Thats the new Highway: Big photo by BPT: Satelite drawings: Some more renders... Desde Galdakao direccion Muskiz Sobrevolando la Supersur, desde Muskiz hasta Galdakao: Ampliacion del puente de La Arena, A8: Enlace Puerto Bilbao Enlace Santurtzi-Eje del Ballonti Enlace Portugalete Desdoblamiento A8-Supersur (Fase1) y union con Fase 3 Pasando por El Regato Conexion con Corredor del Cadagua Peñascal, entrada al centro de Bilbao por La Peña Ampliacion de la A8 y conexion con A68 Arrigorriaga Hacia Galdakao y Erletxe conexion con A8 y Corredor del Txorierri Y desde aqui, hacia durango [/B] Last edited by AdemA; January 10th, 2007 at 02:18 PM.

January 10th, 2007, 04:11 PM	#126
Nephasto Enlightened user Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Porto Posts: 5,750 Likes (Received): 31	Those aerial views are very beautifull but much more dificult to understund than a simple map. I still don't have it clear the conexions between the supersur and other freeways like the AP-68 or A8. For example, will it be possible to enter the supersur in the direction of Galdakao for those who come from the AP-68(from the south)? Anyway, it looks like a great project! __________________ Long live rail freight!!

January 7th, 2007, 01:58 AM	#124
newyorkrunaway1 Skyscraper Guru Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 844 Likes (Received): 0	this is an extraordinary project!!! I would love if the US would build projects like this. !!!

January 13th, 2007, 01:03 PM	#129
Nicolás BANNED Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Northern Germany Posts: 1,387 Likes (Received): 0	[E] Canary Islands (Spain), GC-1 Motorway GC-1, the longest motorway on the Island of Gran Canaria, a Spanish island ~200 kms west of the southern part of Morocco- From south to north ~65 kms, taken by me this January:

January 13th, 2007, 01:14 PM	#130
*ChrisZwolle* Road user Join Date: May 2006 Location: Zwolle Posts: 28,780 Likes (Received): 454	Very nice pics. I saw them already at the other forums Las Palmas is quite big, i thought it had some 700.000 in agglomeration or so.

January 13th, 2007, 01:53 PM	#131
Gilgamesh . Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,221 Likes (Received): 0	Nice. looks like it has almost constant curves, whats the speed limit? Last edited by Gilgamesh; January 13th, 2007 at 02:01 PM.

January 14th, 2007, 03:31 PM	#133
Nephasto Enlightened user Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Porto Posts: 5,750 Likes (Received): 31	Great photo's! It seems that Gran Canária has an excelent network of freeway, considering it's a small island. __________________ Long live rail freight!!

January 14th, 2007, 05:15 PM	#134
Verso Synchronized User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ljubljana Posts: 19,309 Likes (Received): 443	Cool! I like motorways on small islands. Las Palmas, here I come! __________________ take a ride on slovenian highways

January 24th, 2007, 09:35 AM	#135
valhar2000 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 213 Likes (Received): 0	Well, there is the Boston Big Dig, which is similar but even larger. They did take 20 years to do it, though, which sucks.

January 24th, 2007, 09:42 PM	#136
SkyLerm Architranceture Feelings Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Anywhere in southern Madrid Posts: 1,853 Likes (Received): 2	I've seen that in a discoverys' documentary, that was really impressive and huge work, i love that kind of construction sites __________________ The Rebirth Of Time Cuchiville

January 26th, 2007, 12:08 AM	#137
valhar2000 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 213 Likes (Received): 0	Well, yes, but ours is cooler. For no particular reason; it just is.

January 27th, 2007, 03:10 PM	#138
SkyLerm Architranceture Feelings Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Anywhere in southern Madrid Posts: 1,853 Likes (Received): 2	Nice stuff!! __________________ The Rebirth Of Time Cuchiville

February 4th, 2007, 05:32 PM	#139
balasto Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 131 Likes (Received): 0	Entrance of one recently opened strech (cut and cover):

February 9th, 2007, 03:48 PM	#140
SkyLerm Architranceture Feelings Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Anywhere in southern Madrid Posts: 1,853 Likes (Received): 2	Great picture, actually there are 3 tunnel stretches opened since last wednesday. __________________ The Rebirth Of Time Cuchiville

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