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Old February 12th, 2010, 08:50 PM   #1621
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This is a video I make one year ago while driving through N240 near Yesa. I was going from Sán Sebastian (Spain) to Marseille (France) and, because I had extra time, I decided to avoid the "natural" highway route and took mountain roads and detours instead (and paid no tolls ).

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Old February 12th, 2010, 09:39 PM   #1622
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some great development there!
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Old February 15th, 2010, 01:34 AM   #1623
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2 shots of the A1 outside Madrid!

View to the north:

[IMG]http://i48.************/10ydwf6.jpg[/IMG]

View to Madrid:

[IMG]http://i46.************/5owizt.jpg[/IMG]
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Old March 4th, 2010, 12:20 PM   #1624
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does somebody have some good photos of toll stations at AP-7 at south between Estepona and Málaga?
i mean on those:
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Old March 5th, 2010, 10:05 PM   #1625
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I don't know, maybe Flickr? It's hard to take a good picture of a toll station

This is what the A-4 looks like in Despeñaperros, in the regional border between Andalusia and Castile-La Mancha. Also notice that they use incremental launching in some of the viaducts.

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Gracias por el link, sí que me ha interesado.

Más bien mi intención era saber donde colgar estas imágenes de las obras de la variante de Despeñaperros:

















Si no me equivoco, han finalizado las pilas y están ejecutando el tablero por desplazamiento. Si alguien sabe más de este tema, se lo agradecería.
And this was its status one year ago: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...s#post32728340
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Old March 9th, 2010, 09:31 PM   #1626
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Accidente M 607

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Old March 9th, 2010, 09:58 PM   #1627
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Wow that was some crash

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Old March 9th, 2010, 10:50 PM   #1628
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That's a shitty road. Is that a STOP sign on the right (0:00)? A bus stop (0:08)? The pavement looks quite old and non-draining. Plus that curve is quite dangerous, the woman says "this is where my son had the accident", and the barriers look like there has been another recent accident...

Anyway the driver of the Jaguar was quite stupid too. There are signs saying "80", several cones...

Now it seems that the Autonomous Community of Madrid is going to repair the "curve of death": http://www.elmundo.es/elmundo/2010/0...268139088.html

That's how the things work here. Someone (or a lot of people in this case) has to die before something is done.
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Old March 9th, 2010, 11:19 PM   #1629
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This road has right-in, right-out driveway access to some office buildings.
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Old March 10th, 2010, 01:09 PM   #1630
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i'd say he's been doing 140+.
here we see clearly why it is very important to fix barriers right after accident because ther is huge chance that somebody else will hit them in the same place, but then they will not have any purpose anymore becuase they are broken.
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Old March 11th, 2010, 02:28 AM   #1631
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2 shots of the A1 outside Madrid!

View to the north:

[IMG]http://i48.************/10ydwf6.jpg[/IMG]
This motorway have lights in American style. Maybe even produced in USA? It is the cobrahead style of lights who are typical American. They have a lot lights in American style at the roads in Spain.
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That's a shitty road. Is that a STOP sign on the right (0:00)? A bus stop (0:08)? The pavement looks quite old and non-draining. Plus that curve is quite dangerous, the woman says "this is where my son had the accident", and the barriers look like there has been another recent accident...

Anyway the driver of the Jaguar was quite stupid too. There are signs saying "80", several cones...

Now it seems that the Autonomous Community of Madrid is going to repair the "curve of death": http://www.elmundo.es/elmundo/2010/0...268139088.html

That's how the things work here. Someone (or a lot of people in this case) has to die before something is done.
There were deaths in this one? How many? Shouldn't a modern car at least save your life if it rolls over (depending of course on if you're wearing a seat belt)?
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Old March 11th, 2010, 12:22 PM   #1633
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This motorway have lights in American style. Maybe even produced in USA? It is the cobrahead style of lights who are typical American. They have a lot lights in American style at the roads in Spain.
They are very common in a lot of spanish cities as well. For instance, It is the common streetlight of Madrid.
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Old March 11th, 2010, 02:26 PM   #1634
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They are very common in a lot of spanish cities as well. For instance, It is the common streetlight of Madrid.
Do you know if the streetlights are produced in USA? Or if they are produced in Spain with license from USA?
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Old March 11th, 2010, 04:46 PM   #1635
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This motorway have lights in American style. Maybe even produced in USA? It is the cobrahead style of lights who are typical American. They have a lot lights in American style at the roads in Spain.
No, those are not American cobraheads. A true American cobrahead has an additional structural member running from the luminaire fitting to the top of the pole. See this picture for typical examples:

http://winklers-roads.fotopic.net/p16864204.html
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Old March 11th, 2010, 06:47 PM   #1636
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No, those are not American cobraheads. A true American cobrahead has an additional structural member running from the luminaire fitting to the top of the pole. See this picture for typical examples:

http://winklers-roads.fotopic.net/p16864204.html
But i think the luminaries (not the arm) look very American at the roads in Spain. So i think the luminaries can be real American cobraheads? But i don’t know if the made cobraheads in Spain in license or if the import real cobraheads from USA?

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The term "cobrahead" refers to the structural members holding the luminaire, not the luminaire itself. It is certainly possible that the luminaire design is adapted from the US but I doubt this would be done under license because it is essentially a generic full-cutoff lamp housing of the kind that would be shown in state DOT standard plans (which by law are not allowed to show proprietary technologies).
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Old March 11th, 2010, 10:18 PM   #1638
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Those streetlights have been used all over Spain ever since I can remember. I don't think they're totally copied from the American ones since it's much easier and cheaper to design (and to patent) a new "Spanish" model. Anyway if you're interested in lampposts:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=965476


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There were deaths in this one? How many? Shouldn't a modern car at least save your life if it rolls over (depending of course on if you're wearing a seat belt)?
I don't know how many, but there have been three accidents in a week, so it's quite likely that there have been deaths
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Those streetlights have been used all over Spain ever since I can remember. I don't think they're totally copied from the American ones since it's much easier and cheaper to design (and to patent) a new "Spanish" model. Anyway if you're interested in lampposts:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=965476




I don't know how many, but there have been three accidents in a week, so it's quite likely that there have been deaths
Very interesting link with many nice lampposts

But are you sure the luminaries are produced in Spain and not in America? Because I think those luminaries looks totally American so if they are produced in Spain I’m sure they are totally copied from the American ones. But Spain can buy luminaries from America?
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Very interesting link with many nice lampposts

But are you sure the luminaries are produced in Spain and not in America? Because I think those luminaries looks totally American so if they are produced in Spain I’m sure they are totally copied from the American ones. But Spain can buy luminaries from America?
Almost every country has its own standards concerning public lighting. In Spain the "poles/columns" are regulated by the Orden Ministerial 11/07/86 (1986, but there were others before). Those kind of columns (báculos in Spanish) are called AM-10 and are produced by lots of companies in Spain:

http://www.baculos.es/am10.htm

http://www.bamesol.es/productos01.asp

http://www.bacolsa.com/familias.asp?fam=1

http://www.bacolgra.com/productos.asp?id=1

Anyway, with the new laws about electrical consumption and light pollution, these kind of lamps will probably disappear.

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