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Old September 7th, 2010, 03:28 PM   #1881
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Great video!

The A-42 is worst than I thought: Only 2 lanes, narrow shoulders, short acceleration/deceleration lanes...

Leganés is as ugly as I thought
A-42 is a first generation autovía... having that in mind it isn't a bad motorway. But its importance for this zone is similar that the radials (I don't know why it isn't so important in long distance trips because in fact, if you drive straight ahead the A-42 you may arrive to Valencia hahaha) that is why is planned to rebuild it underground throught Getafe and improve other zones, I don't know when because the budget cuts, but it'd have 12 lanes [probably 2(service way)x3x2(BUS-¿VAO?)x3x2(service way)] (instead the 6 [3x3] that actually have) in the undergrounded zone, 3x2x3 from there to the autonomic border and 3x3 from the border to Toledo. The budget for the underground works would be of 400 million €...

* VAO = Vehículos de Alta Ocupación = HOV

And Leganés isn't as ugly as it seems on the video! is not a turistical city, but it have nice parks and boulevards, and some nice buildings like "La cubierta", and is very well connected! with direct access to M-40, M-45, M-50, A-42 and R-5 motorways, also it have 6 subway stations (+2 planned) and 3 commuter stations (with trains to/from Madrid, Fuenlabrada and others each 6 minutes and metros to Alcorcón and Getafe each 3/4 minutes in rush hour) and it have some km of bike lanes and a few pedestrian zones. Leganés isn't Madrid or Barcelona or París , but it has improved a lot since it was a dormitory town.

P.S. I were on a traffic jam last week (monday) in A-42 at 1am going to Toledo
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Old September 12th, 2010, 01:58 PM   #1882
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Trucking up the Despeñaperros, on A-4 Madrid - Sevilla. As you can see this Autovía is no picnic.

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Old September 12th, 2010, 05:10 PM   #1883
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A-4 ends in Sevilla, but nobody uses it to go from Madrid to Sevilla (and Cadiz if you have in mind AP-4), it's name is "Autovía del Sur" (Southern Motorway), from Madrid to Sevilla A-5 is better... both ways have the same number of km, but throught A-5 you don't have to go via Despeñaperros :P (Despeñaperros means "dogs felling off a cliff" :S:S hehe)

I think that when the works at Despeñaperros ends, A-4 will be a better option for those who live in the East of Madrid for going to Sevilla.
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Old September 12th, 2010, 06:23 PM   #1884
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i will miss that section when they finish new A4, especially because i have never been there. do you think it is harder to drive than Italian A7 southbound?
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Old September 13th, 2010, 02:49 AM   #1885
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Trucking up the Despeñaperros, on A-4 Madrid - Sevilla. As you can see this Autovía is no picnic.

It´s amazing Despeñaperros Pass.
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Old September 13th, 2010, 01:46 PM   #1886
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[E] Spain - Malaga - Highway-Cross A-7/A-357 (Photos)

hi!

i am a member of the openstreetmap-community [1] and i know that the motorway-cross-point in Malaga will be rebuild in past.

to make the map uptodate i need some new photos of this area where a good look to see the start and end of landes - spezial [3] with new bridges and tunnels.

could anybody help me ?

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[1] http://www.openstreetmap.org

[2] http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=36...om=16&layers=M

[3] http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/76827196
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Old September 13th, 2010, 02:21 PM   #1887
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i will miss that section when they finish new A4, especially because i have never been there. do you think it is harder to drive than Italian A7 southbound?
I don't know the italian A7 but A-4 isn't hard to drive... you must be careful for not overpass the speed limit (50-60km/h) at that speed I think that isn't dangerous, but if you are driving you can't enjoy the landscape you must pay extra attention to the road on that stretch.
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Old September 13th, 2010, 03:54 PM   #1888
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hi !

did anybody know a free map (not google !) with the develop-definition of the new autopista A-7 of malaga.

important: the data must be free and corrosponding with the cc-by-sa licence of openstreetmap.

regards Jan .-)
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Old September 13th, 2010, 04:53 PM   #1889
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I'm going to ask your questions in Spanish forums. Maybe they can answer your questions.
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Old September 13th, 2010, 09:44 PM   #1890
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are here no spanis people ?

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Old September 13th, 2010, 09:46 PM   #1891
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Old September 13th, 2010, 09:51 PM   #1892
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I'm Spanish (The AR thing stands for Aragon).

BTW, last friday I went to Saragossa. The A-23 motorway is like latest motorways, despite have been opened in 1993 for the Almudévar-Huesca section and in 1998 or 1999 (I don't remember) for the Villanueva-Almudévar. Until 2003 it was called N-330. At one point on my life, I got bored of that stretch because I went almost every day!
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Old September 14th, 2010, 07:12 AM   #1893
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hi !

@Davodavo: which question did you mean: A-7 develop or the highway-crossing ??

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Old September 14th, 2010, 12:21 PM   #1894
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Trucking up the Despeñaperros, on A-4 Madrid - Sevilla.
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A-4 ends in Sevilla,
Old route N-IV ends in Cádiz, South of Seville. The motorway A-4 ended in Seville as the stretch Seville-Cádiz was a tolled motorway, the AP-4. But some stretches have been opened between Seville and Cádiz as A-4, Seville - Dos Hermanas and Jerez - San Fernando; old road has been upgrade to motorway near the lattest towns and is named CA-32.

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did anybody know a free map (not google !) with the develop-definition of the new autopista A-7 of malaga.

important: the data must be free and corrosponding with the cc-by-sa licence of openstreetmap.
Try asking on this thread, don't know if people will provide you the info you need.
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=563240
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Old September 16th, 2010, 03:53 PM   #1895
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Projects saved from the cut of funds:
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un mapa:
Guess what are the best ones IMO
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Old September 16th, 2010, 03:58 PM   #1896
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Edit: Note that the map shows both previously cancelled and re-programmed (i.e. delayed or extended in time) projects.

We talked about the freight rail in Spain some months ago. The Spanish Government has launched a plan to promote it by refurbishing tracks (also, using the current ones that won't be used anymore by passengers when the HSLs are opened) and enlarging the freight stations. The aim is to reach the 10% by 2020.

Some graphs from the plan:

Percentage of freight goods transported by train in different European countries.

Francia=France, Alemania=Germany, Italia=Italy, Holanda=Netherlands, Reino Unido=UK, España=Spain

More countries:


Land transport and national transport in Spain:

Carretera=Road, Ferrocarril=Rail, Marítimo=Sea, Aéreo=Air.

Main flows:
By rail:


By road:


Current freight rail traffic and AADT for heavy vehicles only:


Main lines and terminals for 2020 (the grey dots are the future lines, the small orange dots are the narrow gauge lines)

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Old September 16th, 2010, 04:13 PM   #1897
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Note that approximately 86% of the Dutch rail freight is international freight. Domestic rail freight has a share of 0.8% compared to domestic road freight.
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Old September 16th, 2010, 10:27 PM   #1898
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But the Netehrlands have a relevant percentage of water transport. 42% of the total of ton*km (also international).
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Old September 19th, 2010, 09:09 PM   #1899
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Are there still plans to construct R-1 north of Madrid?
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Old September 19th, 2010, 10:27 PM   #1900
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Yep, there are still plans for make the R-1 North of Madrid, according to Spanish wiki. The project is done, however the contract isn't signed yet.

The A-22 missing link in Lascellas is delayed, now they say it will open in Christmas instead of October.
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