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Old December 6th, 2010, 03:30 PM   #1941
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I haven't heard anything about it either. However Pere Navarro (DGT) said some days ago that he will not increase the speed limit to 140, but AFAIK he said nothing about that kind of roads.

BTW, for those who are interested in the Spanish projects, I have found two new webpages:

-Ministry of Environment: You can see the status of the "Declaración de Impacto Ambiental" (DIA) of the different projects here:

http://www.mma.es/portal/secciones/e...cto_proyectos/

You can choose between "Tipología" (type) and "Comunidad autónoma" (region). For instance, for autovías:

http://www.mma.es/portal/secciones/e...?tp=Autov%EDas

...and carreteras:

http://www.mma.es/portal/secciones/e...?tp=Carreteras


-To see the current contracts in licitación: http://contrataciondelestado.es/

Go to "Licitaciones" (the grey bar up there) then choose:

Tipo Administración: Administración General del Estado (although you can see the Autonomous Communities, Municipalities (Administración Local), State-owned companies, etc.)

Nombre Administración: Ministerio de Fomento

Then click "Buscar". In the last column (Órgano de contratación), the ones that say "Dirección General de Carreteras" are related to roads.

Hope it helps.



Oh, it's been a long time since we posted pictures. Here are some of the A-15, a new stretch that will be opened soon:
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Os pongo a continuación tres fotos del tramo de la A-15 "Sauquillo del Campo - Radona" realizadas desde el paso superior del enlace de Adradas y Ontalvilla de Almazán:







Como se aprecia, las obras están prácticamente concluidas, con toda la señalización vertical y horizontal, barreras de seguridad, hitos... incluso el enlace provisional con la N-111

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Old December 19th, 2010, 08:08 PM   #1942
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Opened yesterday

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Después de probar el nuevo tramo de A-15, la sensación es sencillamente impresionante.

Se nota que estamos un poquito más cerca de Madrid, a la vez que se echa en falta que los dos tramos en obras no estén ya inaugurados.

Se palpa la seguridad y la comodidad comparado con la antigua N-111, que a su paso por los Altos de Radona se había convertido en un auténtico punto negro, cobrándose varias vidas en lo que va de año.

Colgamos a continuación cuatro vistas de la autovía:


Vista de los Altos de Radona en dirección a Almazán.


Vista del enlace de Radona y Alcubilla de las Peñas, en dirección a Medinaceli.


Vista de la autovía, en dirección a Almazán, desde el enlace de Radona y Alcubilla de las Peñas.


Inicio del tramo y enlace provisional con la N-111

Desde Soria, os deseamos lo mejor para 2011, y que sigamos inaugurando infraestructuras de este tipo todos los años. Feliz Navidad!!! :-)
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Old December 19th, 2010, 08:29 PM   #1943
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And a short section of A-23 is opening soon. But only 1,5 km near Nueno, North of Huesca. Part of Nueno-Congosto del Isuela section. Google already marks A-23 up to Monrepos mountain pass open .
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Old December 19th, 2010, 09:09 PM   #1944
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Google is often way too far ahead with Spanish motorways...
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Old December 19th, 2010, 11:32 PM   #1945
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why does it have a solid line for shoulders? i though autovias had french styled broken line.
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Old December 20th, 2010, 12:51 AM   #1946
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They changed it some months ago.
see here: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...postcount=1918
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Old December 21st, 2010, 09:33 AM   #1947
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I just love that looking of a freshly opened highway: earth with grass still not grown, bright signs and so on!

In 20 years, Spain came a long way in terms of motorway network. Among the big Western European countries, it quickly expanded its network and now has one that, IMO, considering geography, population patterns and flow of good, better than those of Italy, France and United Kingdom, and comparable to Germany. If they only built more urban highways, they could be even ahead of the Germans, but I understand NYMBIsm is active in Spain too.
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Old December 21st, 2010, 03:53 PM   #1948
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I don't know the motorway network in Spain, but I think you need to clarify what you mean by "better". IMHO, France and Germany have an extensive network of motorways but their quality is not very good (especially the German one), while Italy has a smaller network but qualitatively superior.
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Old December 21st, 2010, 06:41 PM   #1949
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They changed it some months ago.
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oh, so it didn't last long. as far as i remember - from late 90es, am i right? (i'm talking about french styled lines)
some motorways also never had it (AP7) what is also weird
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Old December 28th, 2010, 10:59 PM   #1950
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Hm... The AP-68, AP-1 & AP-8 have had dashed lines ever since I can remember, and they were built from 1971 to 1984 (I'm younger though). However the AP-2 has always had solid lines and it was finished in 1979

I'll ask about it in the Spanish forum

Anyway, the first two stretches of the Hiperronda de Málaga (new A-7 bypass) have been opened today. The current A-7 will be renamed MA-30 once the Hiperronda is finished.





Dashed lines: I guess the project was made before the new rule was released.











Source: http://www.diariosur.es/multimedia/f...-malaga-0.html

Bonus: Status of the AP-46, Autopista de las Pedrizas (also in Málaga):





The next important bypass opening will be IIRC the Supersur (A-8 bypass) in Bilbao, in spring 2011. Yes, hiper, super... what would be the mega? The SE-40 in Seville?
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Which sections opened exactly? From where to where?
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According to the Ministerio de Fomento, it's the northern section between A-357 and A-7 that opened. They call it two sections, but it is actually one continuous section.

http://www.fomento.es/MFOM/LANG_CAST.../101228-09.htm
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Old December 29th, 2010, 10:24 AM   #1953
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The next important bypass opening will be IIRC the Supersur (A-8 bypass) in Bilbao, in spring 2011. Yes, hiper, super... what would be the mega? The SE-40 in Seville?
http://buscon.rae.es/draeI/

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super-.

(Del lat. super-).

1. elem. compos. Significa 'encima de'.
It means above.

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hiper-.

(Del gr. ὑπερ-).

1. elem. compos. Significa 'superioridad' o 'exceso'.
It means superiority or excess.

So the Bilbao's prefix is right from a topographic perspective, and the Malaga one... er, well, I don't know the area to judge it
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http://buscon.rae.es/draeI/SrvltGUIB...S=3&LEMA=super
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super-.

(Del lat. super-).

1. elem. compos. Significa 'encima de'. Superestructura.

2. elem. compos. Puede significar también 'preeminencia' o 'excelencia'. Superintendente, superhombre, superdotado.

3. elem. compos. Significa 'en grado sumo'. Superfino.

4. elem. compos. Significa 'exceso'. Superproducción.
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Are you implying that we are building too many roads?
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Well, Spain has the 3rd largest motorway network in the world while it is the 51st largest country in terms of area and 27th largest in terms of population. Now I must add that the geography and geographical locations of the population centers favor a large motorway network (hub and spoke spider-web), but it is still huge.
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They lack connections with France, though. Construction of a highway link though the Somport pass (connecting Huesca (E) and Pau (F)) is already overdue. Also, they need a highway Lleida-Andorra-Foix.
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Old December 30th, 2010, 10:43 AM   #1958
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The French doesn't want a motorway on the Somport!
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The French doesn't want a motorway on the Somport!
they will agree to one, sooner or later Fortunately, France is not Switzerland when it comes to road policy.
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Apparently there was a motorway planned (A650), then downgraded to one lane per direction fast road, then reduced to a few bypass here and there. Thankfully there are still some nimbys and ambientalists However I agree that the existing N134 is too limited with sometimes a single wide lane...for both directions.
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