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Old April 5th, 2011, 03:34 PM   #1641
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I have read many articles and news about our country and I am just wondering... why is it some of them put the word "the" before the word Philippines... like "the Philippines"..?? can someone answer my question??
Oo nga no? why is there a "the" just like....The Netherlands....^^
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I have read many articles and news about our country and I am just wondering... why is it some of them put the word "the" before the word Philippines... like "the Philippines"..?? can someone answer my question??
That all depends on what part of speech it's being used;
  • The Philippines is a noun and it's the formal name of the country.
  • Philippine is an adjective, the adjectival form of the place name.

And speaking of the Philippines and the Netherlands, there is a Dutch town in the province of Zeeland named "Philippine." :colgate:
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That all depends on what part of speech it's being used;
  • The Philippines is a noun and it's the formal name of the country.
  • Philippine is an adjective, the adjectival form of the place name.

And speaking of the Philippines and the Netherlands, there is a Dutch town in the province of Zeeland named "Philippine." :colgate:
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I have read many articles and news about our country and I am just wondering... why is it some of them put the word "the" before the word Philippines... like "the Philippines"..?? can someone answer my question??
Aside from The Philippines and The Netherlands, other countries that have the article 'the' affixed next to their official country name are: Republic of the Marshall Islands, Commonwealth of the Bahamas, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Republic of the Gambia, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Union of the Comoros and Republic of the Sudan.
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Question, bakit dati pag may nakikita akong gamit na gawa sa Pinas eh ang nakalagay eh "Made in R.P" o kaya "Made in the Republic of the Philippines? Mag kaiba ba yun sa The Philippines ngayon?o.o
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Aside from The Philippines and The Netherlands, other countries that have the article 'the' affixed next to their official country name are: Republic of the Marshall Islands, Commonwealth of the Bahamas, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Republic of the Gambia, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Union of the Comoros and Republic of the Sudan.
Most of the countries you've mentioned are fragmented lands (they have a mainland and maritime territories) and/or archipelagic nations. Hence the "pluralistic" nature of their nomenclature.

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Question, bakit dati pag may nakikita akong gamit na gawa sa Pinas eh ang nakalagay eh "Made in R.P" o kaya "Made in the Republic of the Philippines? Mag kaiba ba yun sa The Philippines ngayon?o.o
Tag/label stylings are up to the manufacturer's discretion. Some, in the interest of space on the tag or label would abbreviate the nation's name on it, hence the Republic of the Philippines is reduced to just simply "RP."
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I have read many articles and news about our country and I am just wondering... why is it some of them put the word "the" before the word Philippines... like "the Philippines"..?? can someone answer my question??
In general, we do not use "the" before names of countries-Japan, Italy, France, etc. We use "the" when the name of the country is "plural" in nature like ours is supposed to express that we are made up of islands. "The United States" is a union of many states. Up until its collapse, we used to say "The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics" which was made up of smaller units- republics.

On a side note, we also use "the" for groups of islands though they aren't countries- i.e., the Bahamas, the Florida Keys, the islands of Hawaii, etc.

We use "the" with countries that have the words "kingdom" and "republic".
So we say, the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, the United Kingdom, the Dominican Republic, the Czech Republic, etc. Notice that we usually say "China" , "South Korea", and "Germany". However, we use "the" when we refer to them as, "the People's Republic of China", "the Republic of Korea" and "the Federal Republic of Germany" respectively.
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^^ Slight correction there, The Bahamas is indeed an independent country.

Here is a list of known and lesser-known nations with the article "the" preceding their country name:
  • The Bahamas
  • The Comoros
  • The Congo (the Democratic Republic of, and the Republic of)
  • The Czech Republic
  • The Dominican Republic
  • The Gambia
  • The Ivory Coast (only in English, otherwise you officially call the country by its French name of "Cote D'Ivoire")
  • The Maldives
  • The Marshall Islands
  • The Netherlands
  • The Philippines
  • The Seychelles
  • The Solomon Islands
  • The Sudan
  • The Ukraine (nominally used)
  • The United Arab Emirates
  • The United Kingdom
  • The United States
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^^ Thanks, Red.

"The" isn't normally used before names of cities. An exception is...

The Hague, the Netherlands

The following have "the" but I'm not sure if they are actual cities...

The Holy City, OK, the USA
The City, CA, the USA
The Rocks, KY, the USA
The Forks, ME, the USA
The X, MA, the USA
The Rock, NSW, Australia
The Entrance, NSW, Australia

Which Philippine town or city do you think has the most unusual name?
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Most of the countries you've mentioned are fragmented lands (they have a mainland and maritime territories) and/or archipelagic nations. Hence the "pluralistic" nature of their nomenclature.

Tag/label stylings are up to the manufacturer's discretion. Some, in the interest of space on the tag or label would abbreviate the nation's name on it, hence the Republic of the Philippines is reduced to just simply "RP."
Hmm....

The Northern Marianas
The Cayman Islands
etc. etc.

before it was P.I. or Philippine Islands

how about Indonesia? or Hawaii? :nuts: exception to the rule?

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^^ Thanks, Red.

"The" isn't normally used before names of cities. An exception is...

The Hague, the Netherlands

The following have "the" but I'm not sure if they are actual cities...

The Holy City, OK, the USA
The City, CA, the USA
The Rocks, KY, the USA
The Forks, ME, the USA
The X, MA, the USA
The Rock, NSW, Australia
The Entrance, NSW, Australia

Which Philippine town or city do you think has the most unusual name?
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how about Indonesia? :nuts:
The only time you'll use "the" with Indonesia is when you address it as:
  1. The Republic of Indonesia
  2. The Indonesian Republic
  3. The Indonesian Islands
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^^ yea as long as its plural, dont forget to use 'the', just one of those rules in english. Like The Visayas, The Maldives, The Seychelles. As for the french and her former colonies who are particularly obsessed with addressing every place with a le la l', they also get translated along with the name in english. (The explains why you call le Sudan or le Congo as The Sudan, The Congo, etc) :)
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Thank you po mga sir...hehehehehee...(I like it here parang pinagsamang Hekasi at World Geography)
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Which Philippine town or city do you think has the most unusual name?
Aside from those rajahs, datus, sultans and shariffs they have there in Moro region that to me sound more Indonesian or Afghanistan with those Koranic names, i find those different ways on naming a town after the same politician intriguing. for instance, Roxas is a town separate fom President Roxas although theyre in the same province. And then those full names of politicians reflected in towns names down to their middle initials are also annoying..

What about those with the same name that only differ in spelling? There's Cauayan, but there's also Kawayan. Caoayan, and then a Cawayan. WHICH ONE SHOULD IT BE? :lol: I think that pretty much describes the current state of Filipino identity, you don't know how Filipino bamboo should look anymore. :lol: While majority follows Spanish orthography, some are just too difficult and plain scandalous. Like those exotic ones, Babatngon? Hinoba-aan, Guihulngan? Malitbog? Lingig? MAASIM? :lol:Look at all those NG's following a consonant, and those that end abruptly with g, k or d. :lol::lol:
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hahahahahaha....how bout the Municipality of Munai?,or Bilatan Island...Hiligaynon (Ilonggo) speakers would really smile with this
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I have read many articles and news about our country and I am just wondering... why is it some of them put the word "the" before the word Philippines... like "the Philippines"..?? can someone answer my question??
Go back to its original name: Las Islas Filipinas or Las Filipinas

Just like what other posters have said the article (las) in Spanish is needed because its plural (islas).

History in words
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First Posted 22:30:00 04/05/2011

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CONTRARY TO popular belief, “Filipinas” was not the name Magellan gave the islands he thought he discovered in 1521. If our islands had not been renamed from the original “Archipielago de San Lazaro” we would be called “Lazareans” today. Worse, if we were left with “Islas del Poniente” (Isles of the West) our nationality would be “Ponientes” today.

In 1543 the Villalobos expedition went around the archipelago and gave new names to the islands to complete European maps of Asia. Mindanao was called “Caesarea Karoli” in honor of the Holy Roman Emperor Charles V, who is better known among Filipinos under his Spanish name, Carlos I, and the brandy that bears his name, Carlos Primero. When Villalobos sighted Samar and Leyte, he called them “Las Islas Filipinas” in honor of the Spanish Prince Felipe who would be crowned in 1554 as Felipe II, also known in some texts as Philip the Prudent.

Felipe to Felipenas and later Filipinas is no-brainer. It becomes complicated when translated into English: Las Islas Filipinas became Philippine Islands and during the American period this was shortened to P.I. (which can mean something else!). Then it became the Republic of the Philippines or RP, and now the country is simply PH based on our Internet domain name.

We also know that during the Spanish period a Filipino/Filipina meant a Spaniard born in the Philippines an “insular” as opposed to a “peninsular” who was a Spaniard born in Spain. How the Indio became Filipino is an interesting story for another column, but what concerns me today is that in some 19th century travel accounts and in English-usage we were sometimes referred to as “Philippinos” (with an “h” and a double “p”), leading some Bible-thumping Americans at the turn of the 20th century to believe that we were the Philippians to whom St. Paul addressed some of his letters.

To complicate matters some more, if we follow the alternative spelling of Phillip (with one “p”) the country would be the “Phillipines” and we would be “Phillipinos.”

The fact that history can be reflected or recorded in language makes me wonder when we will ever have something like the fantastic Oxford English Dictionary (or OED), which shows the different meanings of a given word from its first recorded use to the present. My copy of OED has provided hours and hours of fun. If we have a historical Filipino Dictionary, it can also provide hours and hours of fun, especially with the “bad words.” For example, one entry in such a dictionary could be “salvage” and one would learn that the word is English and means “to save or recover something,” but in late 20th century Filipino usage the same word means “summary execution” or “a victim of vigilante justice.” How can one and the same word take different meanings?

How did this change in meaning come about? A “salvage” victim often shows signs that he had been torture before being savagely slain. The word used to describe this atrocity is “sinalbahe” from the Spanish “salvaje” (savage).

A historical dictionary will also explain the once familiar ejaculation “Susmaryosep,” once a popular expression of shock or surprise that has fallen into disuse. Every Filipino knows this is a combination of the Spanish names of the Holy Family: Jesus, Maria and Jose. Change the order a bit and you have Vice President Binay’s given name: Jejomar.

Names and naming have changed so much in the last half century, and few babies are now named Jesus. You may have noticed too that Filipinos read the name Jesus in the Spanish style with an “H” as “Hesus.” Any Filipino named Jesus raises eyebrows in the United States.

In the Spanish period, the letters “y” and “i” were interchangeable, as in Ysabel/Isabel or Ysagani/Isagani. This has led to one of the enduring grammatical mistakes in our time. When the Spaniards placed “Laguna de Bay” on the map, this referred to “the lake of Ba-i.” When we shifted to English, two things happened: “de” was dropped creating “Laguna Bay” or “The Bay of Laguna” and then there is “Laguna Lake.” The place name of Bai or Ba-I disappeared. Later the government created a new creature called the Laguna Lake Development Authority. Since laguna is Spanish for lake, then “Laguna Lake” is a redundant “Lake Lake.” This is an error that has been, shall we say, sanctified by usage.

Aside from the stories behind words, a historical dictionary can also trace connections between the various languages and dialects in the Philippines. It can also trace connections between our language and those of other countries. There are Chinese words in our language. There are Filipino words in American, Mexican and Spanish. There are Indonesian words in our languages, or is it vice-versa?

I have been dreaming of a Filipino historical dictionary for years and wonder if I will see even the beginnings of it in my lifetime.
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Philippine Heads of State & Government and Their Legacy

Several former residents of Malacañan Palace and Palacio del Gobernador, including Spanish and American Governor-Generals and Heads of State represented by the Spanish Monarchy in Madrid have places named after them. See full list.


Miguel López de Legazpi
+ Legazpi, Albay

Guido de Lavezares
+ Lavezares, Samar Norte

Gómez Pérez Dasmariñas
+ Dasmariñas, Cavite

Alonso Fajardo de Tanza
+ Tanza, Cavite

Sebastián Hurtado de Corcuera
+ Corcuera, Romblon

José Francisco de Obando y Solís
+ Obando, Bulacan

Simón de Anda y Salazar
+ Anda, Bohol
+ Anda, Pangasinan

José Basco y Vargas
+ Basco, Batanes

Félix Berenguer de Marquina
+ Mariquina, Manila

Rafael María de Aguilar y Ponce de León
+ Aguilar, Pangasinan

Pascual Enrile y Alcedo
+ Enrile, Cagayan

Francisco de Paula Alcalá de la Torre
+ Alcala, Cagayan
+ Alcala, Pangasinan

Narciso Claveria y Zaldua
+ Claveria, Cagayan
+ Claveria, Masbate
+ Claveria, Misamis Oriental

Antonio de Urbiztondo y Eguía
+ Urbiztondo, Pangasinan

Manuel Pavía y Lacy
+ Pavia, Iloilo

Fernándo Norzagaray y Escudero
+ Norzagaray, Bulacan

Ramón María Solano y Llanderal
+ Solano, Nueva Vizcaya

José Lemery e Ibarrola Ney y González
+ Lemery, Batangas
+ Lemery, Iloilo

Rafaél de Echagüe y Bermingham
+ Echague, Isabela

José de la Gándara y Navarro
+ Gandara, Samar

Manuel José María Eugenio MacCrohon y Blake
+ Macrohon, Leyte Sur

Juan Alaminos y Vivar
+ Alaminos, Laguna
+ Alaminos, Pangasinan

Manuel Blanco Valderrama
+ Valderrama, Antique

Joaquin Jovellar y Soler
+ Jovellar, Albay

Emilio Aguinaldo y Famy
+ Aguinaldo, Ifugao
+ Famy, Laguna
+ General Emilio Aguinaldo, Cavite

William Howard Taft
+ Taft, Samar Oriental

Luke Edward Wright
+ Wright (Paranas), Samar

Leonard Wood
+ Lakewood (Lake Leonard Wood), Zamboanga del Sur

Manuel Luis Quezon y Molina
+ Quezon, Bukidnon
+ Quezon, Isabela
+ Quezon, Manila
+ Quezon, Nueva Ecija
+ Quezon, Nueva Vizcaya
+ Quezon, Palawan
+ Quezon, Quezon
+ Quezon Province

Sergio Osmeña y Suico
+ Sergio Osmeña Sr., Zamboanga del Norte

Manuel Roxas y Acuña
+ President Manuel A. Roxas, Zamboanga del Norte
+ President Roxas, Capiz
+ President Roxas, Cotabato
+ Roxas, Capiz
+ Roxas, Isabela
+ Roxas, Mindoro Oriental
+ Roxas, Palawan

Elpidio Quirino y Rivera
+ President Quirino, Sultan Kudarat
+ Quirino, Ilocos Sur
+ Quirino, Isabela
+ Quirino Province

Ramón Magsaysay y del Fierro
+ Magsaysay, Davao del Sur
+ Magsaysay, Lanao del Norte
+ Magsaysay, Misamis Oriental
+ Magsaysay, Mindoro Occidental
+ Magsaysay, Palawan
+ Ramon Magsaysay, Zamboanga del Sur

Carlos García y Polístico
+ President Carlos P. Garcia, Bohol

Carlos IV
+ La Carlota, Negros Occidental

Fernando VI
+ Ciudad Fernandina (Vigan), Ilocos Sur

Isabel II
+ Isabel, Leyte
+ Isabela, Basilan
+ Isabela, Negros Occidental
+ Isabela Province

Eulalia de Borbón
+ Puerto Princesa, Palawan

Alfonso XII
+ Alfonso, Cavite

Mercedes de Orleans
+ Reina Mercedes, Isabela

Amadeo I
+ Amadeo, Cavite

Infanta de España
+ Infanta, Pangasinan
+ Infanta, Quezon

Principe de España
+ El Principe (Aurora Province)

Casa de Borbon
+ Borbon, Cebu

Real
+ Real (Puerto Real), Quezon
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On a sidenote, did you know that Reina Mercedes in Isabela is the most regal address in the Philippines?



Reina Mercedes, Isabela, Philippines

Representing 3 Spanish Royal figures: Queen Mercedes de Orleans, Queen Isabel II and of course, King Felipe II in one powerful crown address :D
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Other former Malacañan residents and relatives with places named in their honor.


Aurora Antonia Aragón y Molina
+ Aurora, Isabela
+ Aurora, Zamboanga del Sur
+ Aurora Province

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