Skopje - Northern Bypass | Скопје - северна обиколница

[BL]

Originally Posted by dewrob

I don't know why BL is confused. Of course there was nationalization in Yugoslavia. And there was also denationalization in Macedonia. I think it has ended here a while ago but some cases are still dragged around the courts and disputed. However no new applications for denationalization are allowed I think. I might be wrong though.

People got back buildings, land or state issued bonds depending from the circumstances in each case.

yes there was nationalisation, but it was not that wide spread. my grandparents didn´t loose much land. but in Bulgaria as i was heared no one had right to own land. And in yugoslavio that was not case, that is why i am confused.

[new bulgaria]

Originally Posted by BL

yes there was nationalisation, but it was not that wide spread. my grandparents didn´t loose much land. but in Bulgaria as i was heared no one had right to own land. And in yugoslavio that was not case, that is why i am confused.

Of course Bulgarians owned land during communism. You are really not familiar with what the situation was in Bulgaria!

[Verso]

Now BL got banned?! What is going on???

[Marek.kvackaj]

I hope that BL is not banned...
is gonna be EE and Serbia section booring

[new bulgaria]

Originally Posted by Verso

Now BL got banned?! What is going on???

He's not banned. He's just fooling around.

[Verso]

Let's just all fool around!

[dia]

Skopie will finish its bypass way before Luxembourg-ville Great job mak. friends and especially the threadstarter

[BL]

Originally Posted by new bulgaria

Of course Bulgarians owned land during communism. You are really not familiar with what the situation was in Bulgaria!

the bulgarian friend told me that. So what was the criteria for land taking?

[dia]

Originally Posted by BL

the bulgarian friend told me that. So what was the criteria for land taking?

As far as I know- being too young to remember anything from this, and never asked for many details. Bulgarians could own the land of their homes the problem is, people only were permitted to have one home.. generally. It was the agricultural land who was nationalised as a whole, as well as the second, third and so on properties. At least that´s what happened in my family.

[BL]

what do u mean of their homes?

[dia]

Originally Posted by BL

what do u mean of their homes?

Their residence.

[Realek]

Originally Posted by BL

what do u mean of their homes?

Well you have to build your house somewhere on some land. It can't just float in air. At least not yet with today's technology.

[BL]

how unfriendly u r. I understood that, but i don´t understand the principle. so if u have house and only your backyard can be private everything else has been nationalized?
And don´t be smartasses just try to explain.

[Realek]

Originally Posted by BL

how unfriendly u r. I understood that, but i don´t understand the principle. so if u have house and only your backyard can be private everything else has been nationalized?
And don´t be smartasses just try to explain.

Yet again you amaze me how sensitive you are, especially considering your style when posting.

It wasn't meant to be unfriendly, but just a simple remark trying to explain (in a jokingly way) what I thought was pretty clear.

Anyway I dont know the details, perhaps some of the Bulgarian forumers can explain this if they have the patience...

[BL]

I am not sensitive, just i am trying to figure that out and u r not helping. And my style when posting may be a bit rough but only when i am making comments and not when answering questions.

[new bulgaria]

Originally Posted by dia

As far as I know- being too young to remember anything from this, and never asked for many details. Bulgarians could own the land of their homes the problem is, people only were permitted to have one home.. generally. It was the agricultural land who was nationalised as a whole, as well as the second, third and so on properties. At least that´s what happened in my family.

Most Bulgarian families have villas apart from the their permanent homes and it's always been like this. I don't now where you got that "one home per family" restriction.

[BL]

so nobody knows how that worked?

[Verso]

Originally Posted by dia

Skopie will finish its bypass way before Luxembourg-ville

What are you talking about? Luxembourg has had a motorway bypass for a long time, I've driven all around it. It's not a ringroad, if that's what you meant, but the Skopje Bypass won't be either. Btw, are there any plans to make it a ringroad? There are some badass hills south of Skopje though.

[Realek]

Originally Posted by Verso

What are you talking about? Luxembourg has had a motorway bypass for a long time, I've driven all around it. It's not a ringroad, if that's what you meant, but the Skopje Bypass won't be either. Btw, are there any plans to make it a ringroad? There are some badass hills south of Skopje though.

No Point in making a ring road. Two main factors dictate this:
1. the terrain (especially mount Vodno)
2. the directions from which the main roads converge on Skopje

Skopje has a so called eastern bypass for a long time now, and with the northern bypass the issue of transit traffic will be closed.

For intra-city traffic Skopje has 3 Urban freeways planned, but unfortunately only one of them is something like half built and the other two aren't touched nor there are any plans in the near future for this.

edit: people actually call one of those urban freeways a southern bypass, but that's not the case.

[Verso]

Thanks. Yeah, Skopje doesn't really need a ringroad, the northern bypass will do it.