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Ephemera · March 21st, 2007, 12:08 AM

I think it has a very special kind of beauty. Maybe they could make it look brighter and whiter, or something. It could be appreciated more, in my opinion.

jrb · March 21st, 2007, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Ephemera

I think it has a very special kind of beauty. Maybe they could make it look brighter and whiter, or something. It could be appreciated more, in my opinion.

Maybe they could demolish it and make it vanish?

WeasteDevil · March 21st, 2007, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by jrb

Actually it's not too bad inside. Shame about the actual building though.

On the level of the building itself, not on Sleepy's level, surely the inside is just as much an important aspect of a building as the outside isn't it? If so, you're seriously contradicting yourself.

The Longford is a pile of shite on the outside, so is the Odeon. Many people want to save those because of their innards.

You could have something as beautiful as feck on the outside and rather shit on the inside. Beetham is rather shit on the inside, couldn't swing a cat in most of those apartments, yet many would still pay through the nose just to try to shoot their load on Ena Sharples' rooftop slates and quietly drag on their fag in contentment afterwards gazing out of the window looking at the shitty cluttered rooftops.

Just a thought.

The Longford · March 21st, 2007, 01:22 AM

I think the ramada is only 'nice' on the inside cos its a bit posh and done up nice. Its not anything to do with the architecture. Its just a big shit box which has been done up nice inside to suit current taste.

Mez · March 21st, 2007, 02:11 AM

I think it inhibits the city to grow down towards Strangeways. Not only that, I think Blackfriars st could be one of the most iconic gateways into the city centre, and it is taking up valuable space.

It rapes the riverside.

If anyone wants to keep it. fair enough, but rip it up and plonk it at UMIST with the rest of Manchester's concrete, unwanted children.

WeasteDevil · March 21st, 2007, 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by The Longford

I think the ramada is only 'nice' on the inside cos its a bit posh and done up nice. Its not anything to do with the architecture. Its just a big shit box which has been done up nice inside to suit current taste.

Wasn't that once the case for the Longford? Of course it's a box, all buildings are unless they are domes and that thing in Stockport. But not all boxes are cuboids, most people forget this fact.

WeasteDevil · March 21st, 2007, 02:57 AM

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It rapes the riverside.

The vast majority of the city centre does that. Thus why there is barely any riverside to speak of.

Mez · March 21st, 2007, 03:07 AM

shame isn't it.

nerd · March 21st, 2007, 03:25 AM

The only positive feature of this building is the view from the top - it is the only place in the city centre whose outlook isn't blighted by the Ramada Hotel.

highriser · March 21st, 2007, 04:01 AM

semtex = ramada

jrb · March 21st, 2007, 10:19 AM

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On the level of the building itself, not on Sleepy's level, surely the inside is just as much an important aspect of a building as the outside isn't it? If so, you're seriously contradicting yourself.

Not at all Weastie. I said the inside was 'not too bad', nothing else. Is the building worth saving because of it's 80's looking interior, chrome, glass, gold affect bannisters, etc?(Miami Vice style) No it isn't.

This building has too go. It's spoiling Deansgate and the whole of that area. It's just a huge concrete wall and it needs to be demolished.

BeardedGenius · March 21st, 2007, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Ephemera

I think it has a very special kind of beauty.

In fairness, many things have a very 'special' kind of beauty...

(...I refer of course to our 'brutal' Wayne)

markydeedrop · March 21st, 2007, 11:37 AM

Now this really is a thing of beauty...

image hosted on flickr

mr_smith · March 21st, 2007, 12:28 PM

The tower, as dirty as it is is not the main problem. Its the run down and derelict podium, completely ignored by the hotel and just left to fester.
On the right side it has a burnt out escalator, bordered up and looking completely rotten, has a crap billboard plastered above it and just looks a mess.
Considering what a central location it is it cant be in the hotels interest to leave this mess next to them? I walk under this every day amazed that its still standing.
If Greengate starts I have a feeling this will still be here making its brutalist shit statement and stopping any kind of commercial activity on that side of the road as well as hiding the river, and any possibility of a remotely pleasant walk past it.
Because it houses a car park I bet it still probably makes the owners a profit so regardless of its burnt out, boarded up, abandoned, vandalised state they couldn't care less, and will make no effort to improve it.

Mez · March 21st, 2007, 12:39 PM

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and will make no effort to improve it.

Good. At least there's no reason at all, to attempt to save it.

Northbeach · March 21st, 2007, 01:14 PM

That's fantastic longcurvature - what did it house? Looks like a pre Starbucks Coffee palace on the ground floor, ahead of it's time, and then you have Columbia Pictures (and Gulf Oil) sat on the second floor...??
My Anty's house was full of art deco/noveau (please forgive my terminology) which I suppose is why I like this type of building so much.

Isaac Newell · March 21st, 2007, 02:21 PM

I'm guessing that a Columbia Pictures office would be there to distribute reels of film to the then hundreds of local cinemas.

Ephemera · March 21st, 2007, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BeardedGenius

In fairness, many things have a very 'special' kind of beauty...

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(...I refer of course to our 'brutal' Wayne)

Beardie, you would probably be surprised, probably.

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That's fantastic longcurvature - what did it house? Looks like a pre Starbucks Coffee palace on the ground floor, ahead of it's time...

Looks like a furniture showroom to me.

The Longford · March 21st, 2007, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Ephemera

Looks like a furniture showroom to me.

The new lad is correct.

SleepyOne · April 10th, 2007, 09:00 PM

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March 21st, 2007, 12:08 AM	#21
Ephemera Not even Doom music... Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 351 Likes (Received): 0	I think it has a very special kind of beauty. Maybe they could make it look brighter and whiter, or something. It could be appreciated more, in my opinion.

March 21st, 2007, 03:25 AM	#29
nerd Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,784 Likes (Received): 16	The only positive feature of this building is the view from the top - it is the only place in the city centre whose outlook isn't blighted by the Ramada Hotel.

March 21st, 2007, 04:01 AM	#30
highriser Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 4,233 Likes (Received): 3	semtex = ramada

March 21st, 2007, 11:37 AM	#33
markydeedrop John 3:16 Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Manchester Posts: 1,935 Likes (Received): 6	Now this really is a thing of beauty... image hosted on flickr

March 21st, 2007, 12:28 PM	#34
mr_smith Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 80 Likes (Received): 0	The tower, as dirty as it is is not the main problem. Its the run down and derelict podium, completely ignored by the hotel and just left to fester. On the right side it has a burnt out escalator, bordered up and looking completely rotten, has a crap billboard plastered above it and just looks a mess. Considering what a central location it is it cant be in the hotels interest to leave this mess next to them? I walk under this every day amazed that its still standing. If Greengate starts I have a feeling this will still be here making its brutalist shit statement and stopping any kind of commercial activity on that side of the road as well as hiding the river, and any possibility of a remotely pleasant walk past it. Because it houses a car park I bet it still probably makes the owners a profit so regardless of its burnt out, boarded up, abandoned, vandalised state they couldn't care less, and will make no effort to improve it.

March 21st, 2007, 01:14 PM	#36
Northbeach A roussos is for life. Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Manchester Posts: 1,176 Likes (Received): 0	That's fantastic longcurvature - what did it house? Looks like a pre Starbucks Coffee palace on the ground floor, ahead of it's time, and then you have Columbia Pictures (and Gulf Oil) sat on the second floor...?? My Anty's house was full of art deco/noveau (please forgive my terminology) which I suppose is why I like this type of building so much.

March 21st, 2007, 02:21 PM	#37
Isaac Newell Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 12,895 Likes (Received): 6	I'm guessing that a Columbia Pictures office would be there to distribute reels of film to the then hundreds of local cinemas.