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Old May 16th, 2007, 04:30 PM   #61
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stop bitching at eachother like five year olds,
this design lacks street level retail, I mean an outdoor cafe, would have been great. Hopefully that future restraunt(which is neat looking) brings some pedestrian life.
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Old May 16th, 2007, 05:15 PM   #62
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this design lacks street level retail, I mean an outdoor cafe, would have been great. Hopefully that future restraunt(which is neat looking) brings some pedestrian life.
That would be my biggest complaint about it too - depending on the finish, it may end up being not detrimental to the area. But what is really needed, IMHO, is a better developed pedestrian environment between WRSP and the Circle/Circle Centre. From these drawings, it's hard to tell what kind of street presence the new hotel will have on the Washington side; I'm guessing not much. What I would recommend is the following - for the area:

The new hotel should have some street presence (retail, etc) along West in particular, and along Maryland if possible; The Washington side is kind of hemmed in my the street, and could be the drop off area;

Both Washington and Maryland between West and Capitol need attention - for the most part there are only enormous, brutalist parking garages and hotel walls. That area needs to be be more inviting to pedestrians - more trees, and the development of some street level shopping if possible. That's probably not possible, but it would connect the park and downtown much better.

As for the design....eeeeh. I agree with others that it seems to pay homage to Miami, which I dont really care for, but it could always be worse. I do like the wall effect along West Street - I think it plays off the monumental architecture of the power plant and the Nazi-inspired collinaded state office building. The roof is silly, though.
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Old May 16th, 2007, 05:38 PM   #63
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HaHa i honestly dont mind the "Miami" feel to it! I mean that's atleast pretty damn decent... Like honestly would ya rather have an "Omaha" or "Des Moines" feel to it? I didnt think so.
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Old May 16th, 2007, 05:45 PM   #64
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Let's get back on topic, please.

When is the new design set to be released?
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Old May 16th, 2007, 05:52 PM   #65
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Let's get back on topic, please.

When is the new design set to be released?
UHM... How bout you get on topic buddy. They've ALREADY been released! Damn.
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Old May 16th, 2007, 06:40 PM   #66
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Old May 16th, 2007, 06:41 PM   #67
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come on Indy forumers...let's at least be ice to each other!!!
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Old May 16th, 2007, 09:00 PM   #68
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HaHa i honestly dont mind the "Miami" feel to it! I mean that's atleast pretty damn decent... Like honestly would ya rather have an "Omaha" or "Des Moines" feel to it? I didnt think so.
No, I'd rather have an "Indy" feel to it...something that takes the best of Indianapolis architecture to a new level.
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Old May 16th, 2007, 09:16 PM   #69
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No, I'd rather have an "Indy" feel to it...something that takes the best of Indianapolis architecture to a new level.
a modern american foursquare tower!
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Old May 16th, 2007, 09:44 PM   #70
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Update: Hotel could get green roof

Developers may add a green roof to plans unveiled yesterday for a $325-million JW Marriott hotel complex. A spokesman for the development team tells Property Lines that discussions are underway about installing the environmentally friendly feature atop a 45,000-square-foot Grand Ballroom. Check out the top rendering here. The large white area between the bookend hotel towers is where vegetation could be planted to enhance energy efficiency.

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Old May 16th, 2007, 09:47 PM   #71
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Best of Indy Architecture?







Other examples?
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Best Of Indy....

I have no pics but how bout,

300 N. Meridian
Conseco Fieldhouse
8888 Keystone Crossing
Barnes & Thornburg Building

I'm sure there's @least a dozen or so more!
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300 N. Meridian is my favorite, with Circle Tower a close second. The Indiana State House and the Indiana War Memorial have to be on any best-of Indy list, don't they?
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Ah yes...

I guess i never noticed the angled windows on the Circle Tower before... Suhweet! Ah yes, its neighbor three doors down Columbia Club is quite lovely too...
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A Building I Never Knew Was So Elegant!

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I would have to say the monuments, the SRC, Das Deutch Haus, Conseco, and the Indiana state museum. OH, and dont forget one of the oldest(and most elegant) structures downtown, the circle cathedral!
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The more I look at it, the more I like it. This will fill a big void on the west side of downtown. Bring on the cranes!
Hey now! Lets not get dazzled by all the glass. Its slick, sure, but this building still sucks. The more I look at the top, the more awkward it seems. I think just a few simple setbacks would have made the crown a bit more simple-yet-classic. As it stands, this proposal is really generic and low-quality..
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I would have to say the monuments, the SRC, Das Deutch Haus, Conseco, and the Indiana state museum. OH, and dont forget one of the oldest(and most elegant) structures downtown, the circle cathedral!
So, what do you think defines "good architecture" in Indianapolis - what kinds of characteristics would a building have to be defined as "Indianapolis Vernacular"?
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So, what do you think defines "good architecture" in Indianapolis - what kinds of characteristics would a building have to be defined as "Indianapolis Vernacular"?
depends on what kind, newer Indianapolis architecture, or classic.
Classic, would be alot of queen anne and foursquare, as for modern, the Indiana state museum, IMA, etc. Good architecture I think is defined on how it makes itself a place in the world as a timeless design, something that in forty years people will still say "how amazing it is".
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