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Old May 15th, 2017, 12:17 AM   #1101
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Old May 15th, 2017, 12:18 AM   #1102
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Old May 15th, 2017, 04:40 PM   #1103
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Wait are they retaining that awful facade?
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Old May 15th, 2017, 06:47 PM   #1104
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yeah, sadly it's under heritage protection.
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Old May 15th, 2017, 07:07 PM   #1105
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Old May 15th, 2017, 08:02 PM   #1106
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Seriously? For what reason might that be?
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Old May 15th, 2017, 08:35 PM   #1107
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Seriously? For what reason might that be?
Well, just look at it. Its beauty and elegance is simply overwhelming. Statue of Liberty my ass. Eiffel Tower who? The real symbol of the world is this nondescript, piece of sh*t postwar facade.

On a serious note, what's the thing with German protection of postwar buildings!? I mean, I get that there are some important and beloved postwar buildings (you can't and shouldn't tear down EVERYTHING, although you can 97% of it), but that one definitely isn't one of them. There is an example in Nuremberg, as well, where a postwar facade cannot be replaced with a reconstruction of one of the most famous townhouses (don't remember its name, sadly) because it is protected. You can't protect trash just because you lost the ones worth protecting. More meaningful would be to reconstruct those lost pearls, but, oh well, what do I know...
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Old May 15th, 2017, 10:14 PM   #1108
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I guess the argument is that the architecture is subjective while the number of years a building has been standing is not. Heritage preservation isn't really about preserving beauty, it's about preserving heritage. It's just that as long as pre-war buildings were protected (because at that point they were the only ones old enough for that), heritage protection almost unanimously meant preserving the beauty of cities as well. I kind of understand the point in listing post-war buildings in that respect, I still wish they wouldn't do that, though.
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Old May 15th, 2017, 11:05 PM   #1109
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The reason is very simple: there are a lot of postwar modernist ideologues in control. After the war they tore down beautiful old buildings and now they protect the ugly successors with the argument that history shouldn't repeat itself. Very easy to see through. Meanwhile the beautiful Senckenberg museum is being mutilated with the blessing of just the same agency.
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Old May 15th, 2017, 11:40 PM   #1110
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that's true. Whoever is responsible for the rape of the Senckenberg should be criminally held accountable. That's probably the largest failure of the Denkmalschutz in this decade or more.
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Old May 16th, 2017, 02:53 AM   #1111
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It's being protected because it is a nice piece of mid-century modernism. All architectural styles should be protected. This idea that only pre-war stuff should be protected is ridiculous and has no logical basis.

"Post war modernist ideologues" That's a good one. What's that even supposed to mean? Reminds me of "Entartete Kunst"
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Old May 16th, 2017, 09:22 AM   #1112
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Reductio ad hitlerum much? The bottom line is that the facade in question looks like any mid-century facade and unless the building was the first of its kind in Germany or something it should be demolished. The fact that only the facade is being retained also indicates that the building itself wasn't worth much. So why keep it?

It's funny how a growing number of people these days support mass demolition of modernism, wanting it to be replaced by new buildings with classical proportions and using more traditional materials. At the same time modernists now form the "keep the past" heritage lobby groups.
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Old May 16th, 2017, 10:37 AM   #1113
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If the building is enough interesting to have a special protection, shouldn't it be totally protected? And not just the facade? It sounds strange to see that it's protected, but that it's OK to destroy everything inside the building.
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Old May 22nd, 2017, 10:33 AM   #1114
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Old May 22nd, 2017, 01:45 PM   #1115
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Fabulous compilation, thanks K-Town Man!

Frankfurt is transforming rapidly. It's turning into a bustling metropolitan hub, not only for all the tower projects, but everything else going on. It's fascinating this is even possible with the steep rise of Berlin and rapidly growing Hamburg, Cologne and Munich metros at the same time.
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Old May 23rd, 2017, 11:33 AM   #1116
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^Sadly we don't get to see much of Munich and Cologne in the projects and construction forum.
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Old May 24th, 2017, 03:49 AM   #1117
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so many incult dumbs here! I can't believe what I am reading. And they say they like architecture...
your arguments are those of all criminals who wanted to destroy gothic, classical, art-nouveau,... architectures, just because they were "out of fashion", to old for modern standards and not old enough to be considered as "historic".
In 100 years, when post modern architecture will be so rare because of guys like you, people will consider you as pure idiots. Always the same, but people never learn...
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Old May 24th, 2017, 12:05 PM   #1118
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There's quite a difference. Up until the international style of modernism, there was a set of aesthetical rules almost every building followed. When that fence fell, there was no barrier holding aesthetics back to break loose. Since then, incredibly ugly buildings were created, and way too many mediocre ones. There's more than enough reasons to keep only the best of it in our city centres.

It's not fashion, and it's no lesson to be learned from earlier times. Instead, classical buildings and old gems are still torn down for bland, objectivist crap - that's the challenge we're facing in 95% of the times, not that we're losing modernist gems, which have a huge, huuuuge lobby in Germany. Be it in heritage protection bureaus, architectural juries, city planning offices, the mainstream media or leading politics.

Have a look at the average bigger German city. It's 80% post war "architecture" (at least downtown), and the tiny remaining islands of classical beauty are still harmed or even destroyed. Projects like DomRömer Frankfurt, where this process is partially reverted, are in an absolute minority.
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Old June 2nd, 2017, 10:42 AM   #1119
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So sieht ein Update vom Sonntag aus ;-*
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Some current progress at Frankfurt's old town project DomRömer

Website (English): http://www.domroemer.de/english-information

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