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GREECE | Railways
Everything about greek railway projects...
I hope there is no a similar thread otherwise dear mods please merge them.
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Athens - Patras new railway line
(partially completed - under construction the section Corinth-Patras) Some news about this project of very high importance since the railway network of Peloponnese was actually abandoned for many decades. ![]() ![]() Quote:
Untill now it is completed and in use the section Athens (SKA- Aharcnes Traffic Center) - Corinth (80 Km). Ready untill JUly 2007 Till the summer will be ready the section Corinth-Kiato (21Km). Under construction : The next section (112 km total length) is divided in two parts : 1) Kiato - Aegion (71 Km) is under construction and it will be ready in 2010.The cost of the project is 578 million € 2) Aegion - Patras (41 Km) will be ready in 2013.The cost of the project is 423 million € The electrification of the section Athens-Corinth-Kiato will be ready in 2009 while the rest part (untill Patras) will be ready in 2013. And some photos.... Hagioi Theodoroi tunnel ![]() Kakia Skala Tunnel ![]() Coastal bridge near Megara ![]() ![]() Isthmus of Corinth bridge ![]() Nea Peramos Station ![]() Corinth Railway station ![]() ![]() Kineta railway station ![]() Kiato railway station (not yet finished)
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A brand new passenger railway built without electrification?
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I wasn't aware that these where the trains being used on this line.
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Tubeman thats right!
![]() Actually the line is designed to be electrified (and there are allready bought new electric DMUs) but there were huge delays.(various reasons not to mention now) The electrification will be ready (according to ERGOSE) in 2009. The only finished work is the line from the Airport untill Neratziotissa station (Athens) ![]() @Giorgo the trains that are in use currently for this line are STADLER DMUs and for the small electrified part DESIROs
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An interesting part of the procedure of building new railway lines in Greece is the cases of unexpected discoveries of antiquities.
In such cases the relevant Antiquities Councils carry out excavations at ERGOSE’s expense, and the further actions and technical solutions are adopted on a case by case basis, also taking under consideration the importance of the findings. So happened during the construction of the new line Athens-Corinth there were many discoveries of important antiquities : In the Isthmus – Ancient Corinth section of the Elefsina – Corinth line, the new railway line intersects with the Justinian Wall. In the 6th century AD Justinian showed a special interest in the safety of Corinth and built the well-known wall along the Isthmus of Corinth, many parts of which are still preserved. ERGOSE has taken all necessary measures in order to protect and display the Justinian Wall. In particular, a railway bridge was constructed over the wall, with a span of 72 m, and the space around the monument was formed – remodelled in order to better display and protect the wall. Also in the region of Corinth and Sikiona large scale excavations are carried out. Findings discovered during excavations near Corinth at Corinth railway station :
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2 of our intercity mainline routes are still diesel in the UK, so we can hardly talk (Midland Mainline beyond Bedford and the entire Great Western network to the SW and Wales).
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Thanks for this post! I really interested in Greek railway and Greece in general, i think spanish and greeks are very similar. Well done!
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@tubeman thanbks for the info , i did not know that there are still not electrified lines in UK
@Frozen thank you friend! Well to say the truth we are very far behind in railway infrastructure but something is moving the last years , Spain is a model for Greece!and some more good news!! Diakofto - Kalavryta rack railway ![]() [b]The narrowest rack railways in Europe and the only one in Greece. It dates back to 1896. Its length is 23 Km and the last 50 years it had not seen any investment or upgrade. Finally the greek state decided to upgrade the track (though without changing its width) and ordered 4 new rack DMUs from the swiss expert industry in rack railways STADLER. The first new trainset was delivered and untill the end the end of 2008 the line will be again fully operational with the new trains! From www.Stadler.com Quote:
![]() And these are the new trainsets! ![]() The photo above is the first new rack DMU (taken from www.railfaneurope.net)
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“Construction of Aegio Tunnel in the Kiato – Aegio section of the Athens – Patras High-Speed Railway Line” Budget: € 72,6 million Contractual amount: € 53,57 million Signing date: 24/5/2006 Contractor: “J/V TERNA SA – MOCHLOS SA – AKTOR SA” Implementation time: 34 months Quote:
![]() Escape tunnel (March 2007)
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very huge project...
will Patras Athens be line "high speed"? |
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Kuvvaci it will not be high-speed by west european standards, but for Greece (which lacks of good railway network) sure it will be.
The website of ERGOSE (www.ergose.gr) (Ergose is responsible for the new projects) informs us that : Quote:
![]() So as you see they use the word "high speed" though it is not so high in some cases. Also there is a confusion since the electrification enables speeds of 250 km/h but the track (?) does not.I dont get this ,perhaps its for security reasons , or someone who knows about reailways can explain. It is announced that after the completion of the works the distance Athens-Patras will be covered in a total time of 2 hours which is an improvement from the current 3 and a half hours that someone needs today (though i was expecting less time for such much money spent) Though there will be many tunnels unfortunatelly the terrain of north Peloponnese (especially in Achaia region) is so difficult that the trains will not be able to reach speeds of 200 km/h the last 50 kms.
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Very interesting! There seems to be lots of projects in Greece right now, with new lines and upgrades. If the map at bueker is correct, you are electrifying the whole Athens-Thessaloliki line. Tell us about it, please! :-D
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Love the color scheme of the buildings
but how can they use wooden sleepers in this time and age? |
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Dear Mattboy, the map you found on the net is correct!!
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![]() i am also surprised , in most new stations they use pre-stressed concrete sleepers , a possible explanation is that the specific track shown in the picture is the one used from the metric gauge old line (since from the new Corinth station begins the single track metric line which continues to the rest of Peloponnese.) ![]() ![]() Quote:
We all hope that it is possible in the next 5-6 years to see at least a 80% of the line to be electrified. Quote:
The longest railway tunnel project (under construction) is the Kallidromon mountain twin tunnels in central Greece , (each tube has length 9.2 Km)
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Some photos from the greek fleet of trains that are currently (2007) in use
Suburbun Trains Aroun Athens and Thessaloniki ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Trains For Larissa, Thessaloniki and general northern Greece: ![]() ![]() Trains in Peloponnese (for Patras,Olympia, Pyrgos, Kalamata, Nafplio) ![]() ![]() All the above trains are air-conditioned, but have diesel engines. Up to now (April 2007) there are only some exceptions, such as the lines Neratziotissa-Athens Airport, Thessaloniki-Skopje and Thessaloniki-Sofia, which do use electric powered trains. However the improvement continuous... useful internet sites in greek and english www.ose.gr www.ergose.gr www.proastiakos.gr
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And some photos from railway stations around Greece. The majority of them are very old, but also very beautiful due to ther architectural style and colors and were built the last half of the 19th century...
Peloponnese Station in Athens. This used to be the start point for trains going to peloponnese. ![]() ![]() Mucynes ![]() Argos (before Nafplio) ![]() Tripoli ![]() Pyrgos ![]() Olympia ![]() Now the Peloponnese Station is closed and it will be transformed to a museum. The trains for peloponnese leave from Larissa station as happens also for the trains that travel to northern Greece. Athens Central Railway Station or Larissa Station (destinations for all of Greece:2007) ![]() ![]() Chalkida ![]() Volos ![]() Thessaloniki Railway Station ![]() ![]() Ksanthi
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In conclusion I'd like to say that do travel with train in Greece. Travel is very comfortable (especially with InterCity and Express InterCity trains) and trains pass through marvelous landscapes, gorges, mountains, forests and rivers...you will see a differernt aspect of Greece!!! Islands and ships is only one part of Greece very advertised all this years!!! Try the different and discover mainland Greece by train!!!
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