GREECE | Railways

[imaginas]

Train "intercity" type AEG in Central Station of Athens


Local Train type MAN 2000 in Central Station of Athens


Interrior of local train type MAN 2000


Local train MAN 1 (Narrow gauge) in Edesa Station


Intercity Express (ICE) passes from Sfendali Station.Locomotive is type Bombardier Adtranz



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[Ali18]

Thessaloniki Central Railway Station 3 years ago.

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[DinoBond007]

You have same name (ICE) like Germans but German ICE is a high speed train going up to 320km/h!!!! Are there some plans for a high speed rail in Direction Central Europe???

[imaginas]

The new line "Patra-Athens-Thesaloniki-Eidomeni (idomeni) PATHE is desighned for 220km/h.Is double electrical line.ICE in Greace,means a train with only 4 stops totaly (departure and arival stations incl).For example ICE number 50 from Athens to Thesaloniki stops only in Lianokladi,and Larisa,and has finaly stop Thesaloniki.The travel time is 4 hour 20 min.If you want more information about Greek Railway,you can be member in www.amnizia.com a web site special about trains.Is Greek,but you can ask any question in English.

[Ali18]

Originally Posted by imaginas

The new line "Patra-Athens-Thesaloniki-Eidomeni (idomeni) PATHE is desighned for 220km/h.Is double electrical line.ICE in Greace,means a train with only 4 stops totaly (departure and arival stations incl).For example ICE number 50 from Athens to Thesaloniki stops only in Lianokladi,and Larisa,and has finaly stop Thesaloniki.The travel time is 4 hour 20 min.If you want more information about Greek Railway,you can be member in www.amnizia.com a web site special about trains.Is Greek,but you can ask any question in English.

An interesting information for me too. Thanks.

[imaginas]

A MAN 2000 local train in Inoi Station,before departures to Athens.

[serdar samanlı]

Until a decade Greek Railways network wasn't in a good state with old tracks and old trains but thanks to Greece's entry to EU there has been a massive investment to Greek railways. I hope soon Turkey joins EU and Turkish Railways get better.

[serdar samanlı]

Originally Posted by Skaros

Tubeman thats right!
Actually the line is designed to be electrified (and there are allready bought new electric DMUs) but there were huge delays.(various reasons not to mention now)
The electrification will be ready (according to ERGOSE) in 2009.
The only finished work is the line from the Airport untill Neratziotissa station (Athens)



@Giorgo the trains that are in use currently for this line are STADLER DMUs and for the small electrified part DESIROs

Electric DMUs?

[Kuvvaci]

for a good railway no need for the EU, our current projects are enough... I think you talk without knowing once more.

[AVassilios]

Originally Posted by serdar samanlı

Electric DMUs?

Airport-Nerantiotissa (soon also to SKA) with Desiro EMU! vids on youtube!
you don't need EU to extend the railway network, the EU was just good like giving advices to Greece, like hey guys, you'll miss some good thing if you don't start to upgrate your network.

Greek network is on a good way to became a wonderful one, only OSE is the black sheep in the Greek railway, so I wish private operators. Is there open acess planned?

[imaginas]

Is very dificult for private operators.Ose has problems but if the goverment wants,can to grow up.All the constructions in Greek railways is from ose's funds or loans,and not from ministry.
Sorry for my english!

[pilotos]

Originally Posted by serdar samanlı

Until a decade Greek Railways network wasn't in a good state with old tracks and old trains but thanks to Greece's entry to EU there has been a massive investment to Greek railways. I hope soon Turkey joins EU and Turkish Railways get better.

Don't see any direct connection with Greece being an EU state, and upgrading the railways infustructure.And i am sure that as Turkey is concerned, the railways are being under some serious upgrades too.

As for the Greek railways, unfortunately even the most positive thoughts wont make them look perfect, sure there are some major improvements, but the works are delayed a lot and the new trains that were bought before 2004 are still waiting to enter service, or are only partly running part of the upgraded and now electrified lines.But the upgraded infrastructure is only positive of course

[Kuvvaci]

Guys, what is the difference of intercity trains and intercity express except electricity. What are their lines?

[imaginas]

The train Intercity Express goes only to Thesaloniki and have only 4 stations (arival and departures stations included).The simpe Intercity goes to Alexandroupoli.The simple I.C has 11 stations to Thessaloniki.You can see the timetables in site www.ose.gr
You will choose departure ATHENS and arivale Thesaloniki.

[AVassilios]

Originally Posted by imaginas

Is very dificult for private operators.Ose has problems but if the goverment wants,can to grow up.All the constructions in Greek railways is from ose's funds or loans,and not from ministry.
Sorry for my english!

Yeah I know, built by ergOSE , but who pays it? 50% EU, 50% Greek government/ministry. So there shouldn't be any problems giving open acess licenses out.

[imaginas]

most of money is from loans.The goverment not pays for railways...Only for roads....

[Kuvvaci]

Originally Posted by imaginas

The train Intercity Express goes only to Thesaloniki and have only 4 stations (arival and departures stations included).The simpe Intercity goes to Alexandroupoli.The simple I.C has 11 stations to Thessaloniki.You can see the timetables in site www.ose.gr
You will choose departure ATHENS and arivale Thesaloniki.

thank you for the answer! What about the technical and quality differences?

[imaginas]

The IC is realized by AEG train (as this http://www.imaginas.gr/gallery/index.php?iID=471 IC arived in Athens central station) and the intercity express is realized by one locomotive type Bombardier ADTRANZ and 4 vehicles (as this http://www.imaginas.gr/gallery/index.php?iID=520 is a ICE from Thesaloniki.)

[Kuvvaci]

what is the speed of current inter city and express trains?

[imaginas]

Now,the maximum speed is 160 kph but in near future will be 200 kph.The line is not completed yet.